Exploring why the Lions released Terrion Arnold
The Detroit Lions moved fast. After a pretrial hearing in Hillsborough County where no charges were dismissed and a $1,000,000 bond was set, the team released CB Terrion Arnold on Monday. The brash move has led to many questions about why the Lions would act so decisively.
Tuesday’s Daily DLP answers a couple of questions and ideas surrounding the Lions’ swift action. The first was posed by Lions legend Lomas Brown to Daily DLP host Jeff Risdon during an appearance Monday night on WJR Radio. Would the Lions have done the same if Arnold were a more successful player and not a relative disappointment on the field through his first two seasons? Risdon believes they would; the team’s stated “no turds” policy doesn’t have exceptions. But others in the DLP Slack channel and various social media apps disagree.
One of the plain truths for the Lions is that the organization didn’t want to keep seeing Terrion Arnold associated as a member of the Lions during his upcoming trial. Releasing him now at least deflects any controversy about why the team would continue to employ a person facing multiple felony counts.
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Speaker 4: Hey, everyone. Jefferson here with your daily DLP. It is the last day of June. We have made it to the end of the month. Training camp month is about to kick off. Still quite a ways away, but we're not gonna talk about training camp today because it's Terry on our old time. Had to record two dailies yesterday because Terry on had his hearing in Tampa, Hillsborough County, and he was held on, $1,000,000 bond. The judge in that case, in the pretrial hearing did not dismiss any of the charges, and we collectively got to hear all of the evidence that was in the case against him. And for the Detroit Lions, they decided that that was enough, to get rid of Arnold, and they released him at 04:00 yesterday afternoon. That's, there's so many things that are going on with this. My goodness. Oh, one of the things that I wanted to focus on, and this comes from I did a radio spot last night, on WJR, the great voice great voice of the great lakes with, the wonderful Anthony Bellino and Lions legend Lomas Brown. And Lomas asked me, do you think that the Lions would have done this if Terryon was an a level player? Basic I'm I'm paraphrasing Lomas here. Y'all know how Lomas talks. I'm I'm not even gonna try to impersonate the big man because I love him, and I don't wanna insult him. And it got me thinking. That's a good question. And I posted to the the DLP Patreon Slack as well, and I got most of the same answer, and it sort of goes contrary to my own answer. My answer on the Airdell Lomas and AB was, yes. I do think that if he was a great player that the Lions have standards that they have established, and he clearly violated them and irreconcilably violated them. But a lot of people disagree with that. And, like, I get where you're coming from. Like, if this was Jack Campbell, if this was Jared Goff, this was Jamir Gibbs, would they have been so quick to release him and, you know, extricate themselves from the situation? And I I don't I don't know the answer to that question, but I like to think that the standards are there such that even if it was Jack Campbell doing this, it was one of the last people you would ever expect to do it. Or Amman Ralph Saint Brown would probably be the last person you would expect to do this. Like yeah. I'd like to think that. I know a lot of you disagree with that, and that's okay. And and I Lomas phrased the question as such that he thought that the star power might have mattered too. And it's an interesting thought exercise, and I thought I would share that with the daily DLP today. As to the questions of why the lions did what they did when they did it, For those of you, watching on YouTube and Spotify, first, thank you. Thank you for liking and subscribing. But those of you on the audio only edition, I just brought up a picture of Terry and Arnold's mugshot, and that was on the news all over the place. It was in the a block of the CBS news this morning. Sports center, it was right after, soccer and the Malik Beasley gambling thing. Rough day for Detroit sports, although Beasley wasn't a Piston last year. But, I think the lions don't wanna have that mugshot with the caption Detroit Lions cornerback under it, plastered across every media outlet in the country for the next month, month and a half until the trial exists, and then when the trial actually takes place. Think they wanna have the higher ground of we got rid of him. We did what we feel is the right thing and what, generally speaking, most people think was the right thing. I'm gonna guess based on the reactions that I've seen from social media and comments and our Slack channel, it's probably about seventy thirty to eighty twenty that the Lions did the right thing here in releasing Arnold when they did after, the hearing.
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Speaker 4: Obviously, there's some vehement disagreement against that, but, like, that that's life. Nobody's ever gonna agree on everything all the time. That's that's where we are as a society. But I I do think that the lions don't want that association where he's still active on the team. And every time that his name is brought up, it's Detroit lions and not former Detroit Lion, Terryon Arnold. I do think that's an important distinction. I do think that the no turds policy here, they wanted to flush that as quick as they could. And why would they do that? And this is something that that Lomas also hinted at in our appearance last night, but also this is something that as I I texted with an agent friend last night, he brought this up. And his thought and and by the way, this was shared, I'm I'm sure, by folks on Reddit. We're we are your official Lions and Reddit connection. That the story that Tarion told the lions when he was there for mini camp and getting training was not what came out in court yesterday, that he violated their trust, and his word no longer was good with them. And as Billy Joel once saying, it's always been a matter of trust. If you don't have that trust, good Megadeth song, by the way. My body aches from mistakes. Well, there you go. That's that's that's one of the problems that happened with Terry on here. We're speculating on that, but that's that seems like it's a very logical likely scenario that he had told the Lyons throughout going back to February when the incident first broke and, you know, there were reports that Terreon might be tangentially involved with the kidnapping, beating, whatever, all the stuff. You all know the story. And he assured them, probably, that he wasn't involved, and they lost their trust yesterday. And that's, yeah, that's not something you wanna do to a Dan Campbell coach football team. Not gonna fly. That's very disappointing. Look. I understand that Terryon was trying to cover himself, but he thought he could get away with it. What whatever. F A F O, baby. He learned. You don't do that to the Detroit Lions. And as a Lions fan, I like that. I like that my team isn't going to enable people who are accused of multiple felonies. And based on the evidence that we heard yesterday in the in the deposition, He was certainly involved to some extent in orchestrating, leading, as has been said by myself and others. The entire situation would not have happened if not for Terry and Arnold's involvement. Now how much of that was under his direct control? That's we'll find that out at his trial, but that trial will be for ex Detroit lion, Terryon Arnold. Been a lot of talk about who the lions can get to replace Terryon on the roster. Just looking out at, you know, Kenny Moore's name has come up. A couple people, on blue sky, chimed in with that. I would say Kenny Moore is is a fine player, good veteran. He turns 31 soon. He is eminently redundant with both Roger McCreary and Keith Abney. He is a slot, y'all. That's not what Therion is. Therion's an outside corner, well, I should say. I actually think Tyrion might have benefited from moving inside, but that's not what the lion's plans were for him. They need to replace him if they're shopping outside the organization with somebody with some size and speed on the outside. Those guys, all the people that are available on the free agent list, there's enough words there that I don't think any of them push Rock Yes in, push Avante Maddox. No. The I I just don't see that. Like, you they can certainly challenge them and and, you know, have an open competition for it, but there's not this magic bullet outside corner available right now. This just doesn't exist. As for why the line and so he brought this up on on x, and I'm not sure that I understood the question well because he got offended with my answer for it. But, the question was posed, why didn't the lions get rid of him earlier, so they could go and get somebody? I'm like, well, he wasn't arrested until late last week. Until that time, it would have been irresponsible for the Detroit Lions to do anything with Darion. And, again, we talked about it yesterday in the video. The sales pitch to an agent and to a player is, okay, we have Terry and Arnold, and he might be in trouble, but he might not be. But if he is in trouble, we need you to take his place for x amount of time until his suspension hypothetically ends. Maybe.
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Speaker 4: Guys wanna play. They want assurances that they're gonna play. That's that's not a good sales pitch. So that, you know, that that's one of the reasons why they didn't do what they did. He wasn't arrested. Did the Lions know that it could be a possibility? I'm sure they did. I'm sure they did. Did they think it was gonna come to this? They did they did they trust their player who'd never been in trouble in his life before, who's been a good citizen, good good background dude by all accounts, back going back to the the combine notes that I had from him. Yeah. And and by the way, they should. He violated that trust. That's why he's an ex lion. That's the bottom line. So now we're looking at a a different cornerback competition. Hoping that that is a race truck and stay healthy. I know. I know. Gotta have hope. Even as unfounded as it might be. Wanna go back to one last thing that I talked about with Lomas and Bellino last night, and this is something that I've shared on here before. It is something that I shared with people at mini camp, other Lions reporters. And I believe it was Bellino who asked me, do you think that the Lions have enough on their defensive front to compensate for losing basically three quarters of your starting secondary with, you know, with branch out until Halloween conservatively with Kirby being a variable with his knee injury. And now, Terry, I'm off the team. And my answer to that is they do if they embrace being the greatest show on turf part two, and they can do that. Couple outlets this week ranked all the skill position players by team. Lions were number one in both, and that's that's an easy easy sell. One of my criticisms of last year there's a lot of fingers to point with it, but one of my criticisms was the lions got away from trying to win games by burying the opponent in points. They tried to protect their defense by lengthening possessions, shortening the game, giving the opposing offense fewer opportunities to try and score. Nope. Don't do that. Go out there, hang 37 on the Packers. Put up 35 on the Bears. Dare their offense to match that. This defense, it's not top 10. There are playmakers on this defense. There are guys who can go get the ball. You don't think that Aidan Hutchinson would like rushing the passer on third and seven when their lines are up 20 to seven in the second quarter. I like that idea a lot better than being more conservative and trying to win games 28 to 24. Go win 37 to 30. Don't need style points. You need wins. You need points. And that's how I think that the lions can can most easily overcome what looks like a mid level defense that will probably thrive or die based on takeaways and getting one or two key stops in the game. And they do still have that ability. But that's that's my answer for the defense being suspect. Make your offense that much better. Make your offense that much more dangerous. Put more pressure on the opposing offense to try and match it. Best defense is a good offense to twist a cliche. Anyhow, it's just a sad situation. Not something that we wanna be talking about at the end of June. It's unfortunate for Therion that he got wrapped up because by all accounts, he's a good good person who just did a very bad, dumb thing and has thrown his NFL career away. And that's sad and disappointing. But that also means that there's an opportunity for somebody else to step up, whether it's Ennis Raikstra, Nick Whiteside, maybe Christian Isseyin bumps outside. Who knows? But the Lions do have some some insurance against this. They really do. Once training camp starts and they see what they've got, that's probably when they'll go shopping if if they wanna to add something in. Anyhow, that's the daily for today. Hopefully, I don't have to record another one today. I think I was just one. Stay cool out there. It's very, very hot out. You know, the heat dome is real. Take care of your pets. Make sure that they're not, like, chained outside without water or anything like that. Please be safe out there, and, be good doing it there, everybody. Jeff Risen signing out.