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Speaker 4: Hey, everyone. Jeffresson here with your daily DLP. This one's a little bit different. It is 616616Day. Shout out to everybody back home in West Michigan, Grand Rapids, Holland area, where I live. I'm not there today. I am well, I just returned from Allen Park, the Meijer Performance Center. Took this picture that's my backdrop today. That's my vantage point. I do sit, in fact, in the slouching chair, but has been my chair when I've ever been in attendance. And I was there today, my first time, with the Lions this off season. I was not at any of the OTAs, but I made it across, for today's mini camp session, and I will be here for tomorrow's as well. I'm glad I came. It's always fun to to get caught up again with, you know, the the media guys, both who work for the team and also, you know, the other guys in the media that, you know, it's a strange business in that we are colleagues, but we don't always see each other all that often, especially for those of us like me who who don't regularly come to practice once the season starts. I'm I'm in Allen Park almost the entire off season most years, but, you know, once the season fires up, I I tend to not get over that often. And, it's it it was good. So I think the best way to frame this is and I'll start with once the once the team drill action got going, offense versus defense. Because, look, we can talk about the podium interviews, and there were a lot of good ones, and you might get some things interspersed on that today. I'm gonna save that for a different episode, and I wanna talk about what happened on the field with the players today because that's something that, it is is certainly worth talking about. The first rep of seven on sevens. I'm reading from notes here. You'll have to bear with me that my handwriting is not great. First rep, seven on seven. So no lineman, but, you know, Goff is out there throwing against linebackers, safeties, and, defensive backs. Tries throwing a a short out to Amon Raus Saint Brown, kinda route we've seen hundreds of times. DJ Reed broke it up, jumped in front of the pass. Saint, I don't think was necessarily expecting him to be there that quick, and it went to the turf. And that set the tone for the entire day. Offense did have some wins, but today was about the defensive backs and the linebackers in coverage playing really well. Reed started it off with that PD on the first one. Very next rep, I'll go in. And and so I understand there was some consternation about him last week, having trouble staying with Jamie or whatever. Very next rep, Isaac Tislaw, runs a fly route down this down the right seam. Reed's playing left cornerback. Hip for hip with him. Didn't didn't bite the little head and shoulder fake. Didn't bite the stutter step with him like a blanket the entire way down the field. And Reid had a very good day in coverage. He had a day where if if you if this was your first exposure to the lions, you would say that guy's the best player on the defense. Obviously, not line included. To be straight, I didn't watch much line play today. That's not something that I really get a lot out of until they're in pads, later in July and then in the August once training camp starts. Pay attention to a little bit, but not this was much more about the guys who might touch the ball on an intended basis anyways. So you get Reid breaking that first pass up. Jimmy Rolder picked off Teddy Bridgewater, on a simple like, he he got real he got he got distance in his drop from being the left sideline backer really quickly. I don't think Teddy expected him to be there. Now I'm standing I'm standing in the end zone behind this play. So this it's like all 22 except for a field level, and I'm right next to the goal post. And I couldn't tell who Teddy was throwing to because I didn't see a receiver there. Now it's possible that that somebody was breaking in, but I saw Roeder, Teddy didn't, and, Roeder made him pay. Good good leaping catch by the rookie. He went up and high pointed the ball very nicely, brought it down, and took off right away. And that was the the first of many more interceptions. Chuck Clark. I wanna spend some time on Chuck Clark because he got on the interception, playing deep middle. He is primarily playing the Kirby role. Kirby not practicing, obviously. Sort of playing center field, and Goff hung one up a little bit. I don't remember who it was doing that didn't make my notes, but he overthrew it, and Clark picked it off and took off. Trans again, one of the focus points for this defense is not just getting the ball and getting the ball back, and we'll talk more about that in a second with Clark, and his podium time afterwards, which I actually participated in quite a bit. But this is an emphasis of not just getting the ball back, but making things happen once you get the ball in your hands. And I won't say that that hasn't been an emphasis, but it felt refreshed and renewed today. Again, we'll see if it persists tomorrow. We'll see if it persists into July. But today, it was good. It was very good. Amaris Brown, undrafted rookie from u UNLV, stepped in front of a, a pass from Nick Altmy I'm sorry. Luke Altmyer. I don't know why I call him Nick. I do it a lot too, and I apologize for that because I know he's I know he's Luke. Altmyer, by the way, overall, yeah, it's okay. He had some moments. This was not one of them. He double clutched on a throw, and, was throwing a Jabari Small running a basically, an extended Texas route, off the left side. And Brown, basically just, like, outmuscled him for the ball. It was was gonna be a contested catch, but, Brown just like that. My ball. My ball mentality. He went and got the rebound to put it in basketball terms. And that was and he took off. And I did not know that he had those jets on him.

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Speaker 4: Oh, man. Khalil Dorsey, who played first team reps opposite Reid, because Terry and Arnold, who was there, and did, like, position drill work but didn't participate in the team offense versus defense competitions sessions. Khalil Dorsey dropped a sure I n t off golf. Golf threw it right to him. I'm not sure that he expected him to be there, and I'll get back to that in a second too. Lauren Strickland, dropped an INT off of Teddy that was overthrown. Trevor Nowaski got a great PD. I'm not gonna say that he should have caught it because he, was running to his left, reached back with his right arm, and swatted down a pass from from Bridgewater, that otherwise would have been a very nice gain to Jackson Meeks. I have more on Meeks in a second. Back to Chuck Clark and DJ Reed for this matter. In his podium time afterwards, Clark, I asked him, you know I actually asked questions here, because there was only, like, four of us at his session because Isaac Tyslaw was at the other podium. And, look, we love Isaac. I think we're gonna like Chuck Clark too, though. He gave some pretty good answers. And one of the things that he talked about was how they all got together as a defensive backfield, new guys, young guys, old guys, and watched film of the recent practices and tried to identify route concepts and identify layers and things like that. And DJ Reed organized it. He said that DJ Reed organized it and hosted it. Clark was very willing and active participant in it. He talked about how the aspirations are very high. He feels no pressure. No pressure. And I asked this is the first question I asked him was, you know, you got some pretty big shoes to fill in, you know, while Kirby's out and branches out. And he's like, I don't feel pressure. And I'm I play ball. This is what I do. And I won't say that he took offense to the question, but he was like, like, come on, man. So, you know, I love the answer, by the way, because he he's a very bright guy, incredibly durable, a lot of experience. He talked, Jeremy Reisman, asked him a question about, you know, his how he stayed so healthy and so vibrant for so long. And he's like, you learn to play through things that, you know, maybe some other guys wouldn't play through because this is your job. That's how he got his job. And he he talked about how he entered his first training camp, and he was third string. And two weeks later, he's starting because of injuries and performances. And that sort of echoes back to what Dan talked about a little bit at the podium. One that's right behind my head here. I'm I'm not there right now, by the way. Don't don't think I'm technically allowed to record from there. I don't don't know. I actually don't know about that. I haven't gone over that with us yet. But, anyhow, Dan talked about how, you know, go win the job, talked about competition. Now he was speaking more in in reference to the left guard position, and and we'll we'll we'll table that for another time. There were good offensive players. And my first impression of Greg Dorsch, Y'all who think he's not making the team, if you were there today, you'd be hanging your head in shame. He is instantly quick in any direction. Like, it you you do you you really do have to witness it because I've I've look. I've I saw him play in college. I in person. I watched him, you know, play at Arizona and do some things, but my god. His ability to instantly stop, start, change speeds, change directions in any direction. Wow, man. Like, it's impressive. It's very impressive. He catches the ball. He knows how to scoot too. Very, I'll put it again in basketball terms. He's the point guard that you get switched on to, like, a big guy coming out, you know, like a stretch four coming out to guard him, and he's just gonna laugh at you. Like, he is so quick. Is it he moves on the football field the way Allen Iverson moved on the basketball court. It's probably the easiest way to explain it in layman's terms. Like, the speed, but also the instant speed and the instant ability to stop and shake people. It was Greg Doris, number eight, had a great day. Great day. He's gonna play a lot, I think. We'll see. One of the players that I had talked about in my previous show yesterday though we thank you for liking and subscribing, so you knew that this one was coming today, was Jackson Meeks. So I'm looking at the positional roster here. Okay. From the lines. And Jackson Meeks is listed. He's number 13. He's listed as a wide receiver, one of 11 wide receivers on the team. I'm here to tell you he didn't play a down of wide receiver today. He was strictly at tight end. Here's the issue with that. By the way, he was so Laporta was there, not participating. Tyler Conklin, not we did not see him on the field. That doesn't mean he wasn't there, but he wasn't dressed or wasn't seen dressed. I talked to, John McElhin, Ben Ben Reven, and Nolan Biachi, and none of us saw him there. So may who knows? It is mandatory. We'll probably ask about that tomorrow. Just making a mental note to myself to maybe ask that question to Dan, or one of the position coaches that we we will get tomorrow. So Meeks was actually taking the number two tight end reps. Now the issue with this, he's smaller than Isaac Teslaw, like visibly. They're both listed at almost exactly the same. They're both listed at six two. Let's see. Meeks is listed at 218. Tyslaw is listed at 214. Six four two fourteen. MiX is six two two eighteen. I'm here to tell you, just seeing them, like, walk right near one another, Tesla's a lot bigger, like, much bigger target. And I don't know what you do with a two hundred and fifteen pound ish tight end. I don't. But he played well. He caught the ball well. He ran decent routes. He tracked the ball nicely, which was something that not everybody did. They did they did, one set of drills in position work where the quarterbacks were throwing you know, make you track it over your head, and he he did well in that. Dorch did very well at that for being a short armed guy. J Mo had one really good rep and one not so good rep, which was sort of his MO for the day. He dropped a pass, a great pass. It was well, I shouldn't say it was great. It was lower than it should have been. It was, like, mid thigh, and he was on the dead run, but it, like, fumbled right through him. His next rep, this is where I really like J Mo. He asked for the same throw. And instead of letting it get close to his body where he had to awkward he reached out and crouched down a little bit and snagged it perfectly in stride.

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Speaker 4: It's what you like to see because that's not the J Mo that we saw when he was younger. This is a more mature J Mo, and he'd also tracked the ball very well. I think back to those two training camps ago, people were just, like, randomly throwing tennis balls over his head and he had to try to catch them, like, to track the ball because he had to be taught how to do it. I think they did a pretty good job with that. It seems to have worked. So he was okay today. Again, not not a perfect day for him. Not a perfect day for Saint. Some of that was I it wasn't Goff's best day either. And I will go to a drill that the quarterbacks were doing in the, red zone end zone area. And they put up a, a hoop that was about eight feet in the air, and it's to simulate, you know, like, a high point throw. And they were throwing end zone corner slot fades. And the the hoop is about the size of, like, a spike ball mat, and these got and they were throwing from, like, the three yard line to the corner, middle of field to the corner. And first time through, Goff, Bridgewater, Altmyer, all badly missed. Second time, they all missed. Goff hit the post that it was hanging on. Teddy, like, wildly missed, and Altmaier was short. So Mark Brunell, quarterback coach. We couldn't hear him, but it was basically something to the effect of, I'll show you how to do it. They did it. Then they couldn't get it through the next reps. Mark's giving the ball again. So Brew then takes the ball, he's left handed, and points it, like, literally out of the practice area as an example of like, it was in their heads or something. And then after that, and I don't know what he said to him. I wish I could have heard it. Goff hit his next two. Teddy hit one of two, and the second one was low, but in like, it got caught in the net that hangs down from it. Altmaier bounced the first one off the front of it, and the second one, he bounced it and glanced it off the back of it. So coaching win for Mark Brunell, who also talked to us before practice, and, Brew, Brew's Brew's a fun guy. Very good guy. He, fun thing. So when I do the when I'm at the podiums when we're outside, I use video to record them because it's easier for me to scroll through, and I can remember, like, facial expressions and things like that to give me as a more of a sense of context rather than just a voice recorder. I had to, delete the video part because he had his plays he had, like, a play sheet in his hand and open, and, he realized it, like, three quarters of the way through the interview. He's like, ugh. So you won't get to see any of the Mark Brunel interview because of that, but he he he had fun. He's he likes Altmyer, by the way. Very happy to have Teddy back too. As far as other players playing standouts, there was a fight today. Dan Skipper was involved as a coach breaking it up, which is a perfect way because before practice, we talked to Hank Fraley, offensive line coach. One of the first things that Hank said when asked about Skip, and that was the lead question, was he's gotta remember that he can't fight anymore. And everybody laughed. Hank laughed too. I'm sure Skip would have laughed as well. So Anthony Lucas, defensive end, undrafted rookie, big guy, by the way, bigger than I thought he was, looks bigger in person, because he was going against Devin Cochran, who is an offensive lineman who is bigger than Giovanni Manu. Dude is huge. Built very much like Cornelius Lucas, but a little meatier. If you for those of you who remember, Corny, I believe he's still in the league. They got into it after one rep. The next rep, after cooler heads prevailed by the way, Enes Raikstra was the cooler head, that helped break that up. I wanna give him credit for that, because he's not a he's not a big person, but he got in the middle. I don't even wanna say in the middle, but he played peacemaker and did a a decent job of Frank. But then the very next rep, Lucas and Cochran went at it again. Seth McLaughlin might have played thrown some gasoline onto the fire. We couldn't hear what was going on, but he was a little bit involved. Dan Skipper ended that fight right quick. And we're standing there as the media group, and we're like, did Skip just break up the fight? That was, one of the definite highlights of the day. By the way, everybody loves Skip still, and he is really getting into the coaching. The offensive lineman primarily did their work at the far end of the field. We couldn't really see very well, so it's probably a good thing that I wasn't trying to focus on them to begin with, just because they didn't do a whole lot. I will say, though, the second team offensive line today, Larry Borom was your left tackle. Where's my note? Gonna find my note here. Borom was left tackle, and who was left guard? Stand by. They refer to different notes. I handwrite everything, by the way. That's the way I do practice. Tyler Lacy got some good reps at the first team defensive end, opposite Hutch ahead of Peyton Turner, which was somewhat interesting to me. God bless it. I wrote it down. Oh, Juice Scruggs. There it was. I didn't write his number. I wrote his name. Juice Scruggs was your second team left guard. McLaughlin was in there at center. He also did the third team. There was so there was one rep in the running back drills where they were taking handoffs, and they needed extra quarterbacks, and they also needed extra centers to snap the ball. And Tate Rallidge quickly volunteered and snapped the ball, and he was snapping to Altmaier and looked like he'd been snapping his whole life. Just a drill, though. Wasn't like, don't read anything into it. Just something that I observed. Wanna throw it out there, because there were some of us who did like his potential to be a center at some point in his career. He's gonna be good at guard. I'm I'm pretty happy with him. Hank, by the way, is pretty happy with him too. Although he did say, you know, it's not being given to him, but he has done everything that he can to earn beyond starting and being a very good starter in the league.

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Speaker 4: What else did I see today? Random notes here. Oh, Jamir Gibbs. I hadn't seen him in person this year yet. As nifty as Dortch is, holy crap is is is Jamir fast. Fast out of brakes, like, unreal. He didn't he didn't get he didn't actually get a lot of touches in this, but there was one where he caught a little bit of swing pass and planted a foot and saw that I think it was Rodrigo. It it it it it was Rodrigo closing on him, and he just put on the jets. I dare say that the safety would have caught him. And the safety in that instance was Christian Isian, who was the first team safety along with Chuck Clark for the vast majority of the day. He had a pretty good day, I thought. I thought they both did, honestly. But just watching Jameer, you know, I hearken back to the first time I was at Lions training camp seeing Matthew Stafford throw the ball. Like, I've seen a lot of football players, and I've seen a lot of cool things. The physical act of Matthew Stafford throwing the ball, even just in warm ups, like, holy crap, dude. Had that reaction with Jameer Gibbs today and his speed, because it was something that I hadn't seen in person in a little bit. And that's like, wow. Yeah. Yeah. A little bit of rain must fall as it did at the very end of Chuck Clark's interview, which I began by wearing sunglasses, and by the end, I needed an umbrella. That's Michigan weather for you. It was a good thing that practice ended when it did. Tomorrow could be indoors too because we're supposed to get more rain, over here in the Detroit area. We'll see about that. One of the guys that I have been very bullish on this off season is Roger McCreary. He had a rotten day in coverage. Just a step slow. You know, talked about how I talked earlier about how with Clark and Reed, you know, organizing people and watching the film. It almost feels like McCurry wasn't there or didn't get the message or something because he seemed to be guessing, whereas a lot of the other guys seemed to understand what was coming at them pretty well. Again, it's one day, not in pads. You can get into a lot of trouble by reading too much into one practice. But something it was disappointing to me because I've I've seen very good play from Roger McCreery, but he's also had some times where he hasn't been great. And his inability to carry receivers on crossers and drags was a little alarming today. We'll see if that persists tomorrow. We'll see if it persists into July, but that was something that, caught me a little off guard. Who else was, Joe Bocci had a a PD today. I had completely forgotten that Joe Bocci was on the team, so I wanted to give him credit for that. And it was off of Altmaier, and it was the seven on sevens. And he was, like like, he was gonna rush, and he saw that the running back and the running back in that one was Kai Robicheaux, didn't go very deep. So he just stood there and, like, strafed along with with Paul Myers. He moved around looking for somebody open and just jumped up and volleyball blocked the ball to the ground. So I thought that was that was cool. Give Bocce a little credit there, because, again, I wasn't sure that he was on the on the team. I'd forgotten about him. So need to remember him a little bit more. One other note. And this is from the positional roster designations. And, again, I already discussed how Meeks is listed as a wide receiver, although he played tight end exclusively today. There are 16 offensive linemen listed. Penaso was listed at tackle. Cade Mays at center. Seth McLaughlin at center. Blake Miller at tackle. Every other player, including the guys who are gonna start at card, are listed as o line and not designated tackle or guard. I find that interesting. It's generally meaningless in the grand scheme of things, but I wonder if that will change, and I need to go back through and look at some of my older, rosters. I collect these. I've got some going way back, and that's that's thunder. Hopefully, my power is stable here where I'm at. Ford operating Base Canton, Michigan. By the way, I am having dinner at the Basement Burger Bar at the corner of Ford And Lily today. Fort Warren. Warren And Lily and then somewhere over here. Get the streets confused. I will be there, with an old friend of mine who is unaffiliated with football. If you wanna come by and say hi. I'm pretty conspicuous. We're gonna call that a, a show. Again, tomorrow, I will do a live show. It appears that the Internet here is good enough that we will do it. Look for it probably around 4PM, tentatively. But, again, like and subscribe. And, also, pay attention to the social media. I'm at Jeff Rizden on x, at Jeff Riz nineteen on Blue Sky, Jeff Rizden Lions NFL on Facebook. I will try to post it as early as I know that it will be, going live tomorrow. And we'll run that for about an hour, hour and a half, depending on the crowd and what kind of questions we get. Again, keep in mind, most of my attention is not on the lines right now. It's on the the skill position players, the speed guys, and, you know, the defensive back field, that that sort of thing. So we're gonna call that a show. Day one for mini camp in the books. Jeff Risen signing out. Be good to one another, everybody.