Ravens video reveals a Lions trade that vanished
Ravens Wired captured a draft-night framework between Baltimore and the Detroit Lions. The Ravens held pick 14. Detroit explored jumping from 17 to grab their guy. In the room were Eric DeCosta and Ozzie Newsome. As the board shifted, you can hear DeCosta say, “the deal’s off.” The Detroit Lions Podcast breaks down how it unraveled and why Detroit stayed put.
Picks 12 and 13 scrambled the board
Action accelerated at 12. Miami and Dallas swapped. Dallas took Caleb Downs. Miami slid back and selected Caden Proctor. The Rams at 13 then grabbed Ty Simpson, a move that stunned more than Baltimore. That flurry reset expectations at 14. Detroit, according to Brad Holmes’ explanation, believed no one ahead would take Blake Miller. That confidence held. The Lions did not move.
What Detroit kept by not moving
The reported framework from Ravens Wired: the Lions would have sent 17, a fourth-rounder at 118, and a 2027 third. Earlier in the process, Detroit also discussed offering two fourths plus 17 to the Rams at 13. None of it proved necessary. Pick 17 became Blake Miller. Pick 118 became Jimmy Rolder. Baltimore, once the talks died, drafted Venga Venga Iwanee, the guard from Penn State. Would he have been there at 17? Maybe. Unclear.
Rolder projects into the linebacker rotation battle. He will compete with Malcolm Rodriguez for the third or fourth linebacker snaps. Others will factor in as well. The 2027 third remains in Detroit’s pocket. Next year’s value in that range looks stronger, and the Lions tend to move third-rounders when the board dictates. Standing pat preserved options.
Smoke, targets and positional fit
There was league chatter about Detroit and Caden Proctor. The Dolphins are playing him at guard. The sense here: the Lions were not targeting a guard at 17 and certainly not trading up for one. That tracks with how Detroit operated when the board broke. One trusted voice had also relayed pre-draft that Detroit looked at moving way up for Reuben Bain. Whether that ever truly materialized is unknown. What is clear from the NFL tape on Ravens Wired and the cadence of picks at 12 and 13 is simple. Detroit held its water, landed Blake Miller at 17, kept Jimmy Rolder at 118, and retained a future third. Efficient. Calculated. Very Lions.
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Speaker 2: Hey. Jefferson here with your daily DLP. It is Tuesday, May 19. Welcome to the daily. Doing a solo today after a couple of great guests. Can't thank Justin Mello and Ben Solak enough for joining me. I want I'm gonna actually record peek behind the the curtain here. I recorded those almost back to back on Sunday morning, and it was, it was quite a day. Thank you for the responses and and the the comments and generous I I truly appreciate it. They they both did a fantastic job giving different styles of information, on the lions and the draft and other teams. It's very fun. Have another guest. Spoiler alert. I'm recording it as soon as I'm done with this one, and that will be, Wednesday's show. So I think you'll like that one too. This this is someone who works for nfl.com, which will, be fun. Haven't done a solo shows much lately, but there was a few things that have come up that I wanted to cover, sort of, you know, just getting caught up on the news cycle. We have to do these every now and then. Biggest thing that came out, the Baltimore Ravens released their in house version of Inside the Den. They call it Ravens Wired, not Ravens Wire, where my friend Glenn Urby works. He does a great job, by the way, covering the Ravens. But Ravens Wired showed the behind the scenes draft of trade, potentially worked out with the Detroit Lions during the draft. And it comes up, a little bit into their their draft show. And the Ravens, Eric DeCosta is their GM. Ozzie Newsome is in the the room there. Everybody knows Ozzie Newsome. He was the GM before DeCosta, legendary player. Side note, one of my childhood heroes. I grew up in Cleveland. I did not grow up a Browns fan, but I did love Ozzie Newsome. Ozzie Newsome and Clay Matthews, Clay Matthews, the elder, are two of my, like, childhood icons. Like, I love those guys. And Ozzie has been a fantastic, GM, and the Casa's done a very good job too. And so the lions were looking to move up. Now the Ravens held the number 14 pick. And as it progressed into number 12, which is where Miami and Dallas had swapped, and Dallas took Caleb Downs. Miami slid back one spot and took Caden Proctor, and then the Rams at number 13. It by the way, it appeared that the Lions and Ravens had a contingency deal worked out for the Lions to trade up to number 14 to get their guy. But when Procter goes off the board and then Tye Simpson goes to the Rams at 13 relatively unexpectedly. It certainly caught the Ravens by surprise. I will say that. I've watched a couple of the other draft team draft videos. Nobody was expecting that. Nobody was. It it really shook things up. And as Brad Holmes has explained, and I believe him, by the way. I do. They knew at that point that nobody else above them was gonna take Blake Miller. They had that level of confidence, and they were right. And they didn't need to make the trade. And they called off the deal, and you hear the Costa say the deal's off. Now here was here's the deal as it as it was laid out in the Ravens wired piece. The lions would have get up number 17, a fourth round pick at number one eighteen, and a twenty twenty seven third round pick. Previously, it had been discussed that the lions had offered two fourths in 17 to move up with the Rams at 13. Blonde up not needing to do that. So the players involved, number 17, Blake Miller. Number one eighteen became Jimmy Roller. Who knows what's gonna be of the third round pick next year, but the next year's draft looks infinitely more valuable in that range. We'll see Lions tend to not pick in the third round. They tend to trade those picks. They're saving it for that time, which was fine for for a leader. Who knows what's gonna happen with that pick? But the Ravens instantly, as soon as that deal went away, drafted Venga Venga Iwanee, the the guard from from Penn State. He fits them. It it it was pretty clear. They didn't come out and say it, but it was pretty clear he was gonna be their pick. And they were would you have been there at 17 for them? Maybe. Probably? I don't know. But it's interesting to think about what would have happened had the Lions moved up there. They would not have Jimmy Rolder, who is my best estimation. And, again, we haven't been in the building yet, and we won't be in the building for another month, before mini camp to to see and and talk to these guys. But, it feels like Jimmy Rolder is gonna be competing with Malcolm Rodriguez for the third slash fourth linebacker reps. Now Damon Clark's gonna be factor into that too, so it's not, like, locked in. But that feels like that's where the team is going with Rolder. And then that twenty twenty seven third round pick, you wouldn't have that. Would it have been to take Blake Miller? Maybe. Would it have been to take Rune Bayne? As I had been told earlier before the draft by a reliable source, someone that I do trust, he is the person who told me that the lines were were taking Terry on Arnold and moving up to get that. He was the person who told me that they were taking Talik Williams. So, yes, I do have a big level of trust in this person's information. He said that the lines were interested in moving way up to get Reuben Bain. Don't know if that was the case or not. Can't say. Do I think that they pulled the plug on the deal because the Dolphins took Caden Proctor? I don't. And we've talked we've talked a lot about this. We've talked with other draft analysts about this. Chris Topasso was on. We talked about it with him. I've talked about it with, with Andrew Harbaugh right after the draft happened. It doesn't feel like the line and and I I was, again, led to believe that the whole talk of Caden Proctor, it wasn't necessarily fake interest, but it was more of, let's get this information out there so we can operate under a certain veil of smoke and secrecy. And I've look. The Dolphins are playing him at guard. I don't think the Lions had any interest in taking a guard at number 17 or moving up to take a guard, especially after the investments that they made in Tate Rattlers last year, which looks like it's gonna pay off. We still have questions about the left guard position. No question. But it's better to have a question about left guard than left tackle. I don't think the lion saw Caden Procter as a solution as a left tackle. Just been led by too many people who would know to believe that. So, hopefully, we find out. Hopefully, we can get some answers on that in time, but that's that's the deal that would never was. Waiting for the data never comes. Good Metallica soon. One other thing that came out, the bye week and not getting a bye week coming off of the trip to Germany. We kinda knew this was gonna be the case. Rodwood had prepped us for this back when he talked at the owners meetings, and it turns out that the Lions didn't want a buy coming out of the Germany game, knowing when it was going to be and knowing that Thanksgiving was coming up right before that. And the trade off that they made and I'm gonna I'm gonna pull up Jeremy Reisman from Pride of Detroit wrote this, and he, quoted, one of the league officials who was talking about the, schedule and the schedule making. The NFL's vice president of broadcast planning, Mike North. He said, and this is a quote, we knew the Germany game was going to be a mere two weeks before Thanksgiving, and it was important to Rod, Rodwood, to the organization, to our international folks, certainly to your wide receiver, Amman Rolf St. Brown, that it made a lot of sense for the lions to play in that Germany game. And then he he goes on to say, Reisman writes, instead, Wood focused his efforts on ensuring that the lions got a mini buy following the Thanksgiving game by putting in a request to not have back to back Thursday games like they have done the past two Thanksgivings, and the league re granted that request. And North says, quote, they were really hoping to see that ten day break post Thanksgiving as opposed to yet another Thursday to Thursday, North said. Credit to the team really for volunteering. They knew what they were getting into, and I think it broke the way that they had hoped. And, end quote, there. Now there's a lot of people who were frustrated by this. I don't mind it. I like getting the idea of going back to getting the the days off after Thanksgiving. That was one of the benefits of having Thanksgiving is that you get that mini buy through there. The one issue, and we've talked about this. I brought it up the other day. Actually, the last time I went to the solo show, which I think was Friday. The lions are playing the Buccaneers in that in between week, between New England and Thanksgiving. And the lions are coming back from Germany, and the Buccaneers are coming off a buy, and that sucks. That's not great. Tampa Bay is a team that can beat the lions straight up, maybe, without that added rest. So I do I don't like that. That that that scheduling quirk bugs me just a bit. By the way, I wrote a ton. I wrote a 5¢ at realgmfootballrealgm.com. On the schedule release, it is much more broad. It's not about the lions, although the lions do get mentioned in it. But, check that out if you want more thoughts on on some of the scheduling inequities and what the scheduling was saying about the league. Check that out, please. I appreciate it. The other thing and and this Dave Burkett noted it and then others have it as well. Only three of the 16 teams that are playing internationally this year get a buy after the week after they are playing internationally. One of them is the Patriots, where the lions are playing in Munich, but they're not playing on Thanksgiving. It's interesting to see that teams are getting away from wanting the bye week after it because it it and and the the conference call that Mike North had, a lot of teams didn't want the bye right after the international travel, and that's something that is a new revelation. And I wonder if that's gonna be a trend. I wonder if that's gonna be a thing. The NFL recently, yesterday, announced, or there was talks about it. But, at the annual meetings, they're gonna be talking about expanding the international games to where every team is playing one international game every year, which little crazy, but it's coming. It's it's going to happen. It's it's the inevitability. It just that's where the growth market is. That's where their expansion opportunities might lie deep into the future. There's only so much they can squeeze out of the American domestic market with all the streaming outlets and viewing things and why I had to go out and watch the Pistons and the Cavs at a bar because I don't get Prime. I'm not paying for that. Yeah. Yeah. Things are changing on that landscape, and the the NFL definitely sees the international markets as a fresh fresher influx of more cash. And, hey, who doesn't want more cash? I like cash. You do too. Just a couple of quick other notes, personnel notes in the world of the x Detroit lines because I know I know I know people love these. Gotta keep track of who's been where and what. Broderick Martin, perhaps Brad Holmes' worst pick. Defensive tackle out of Western Kentucky. He was a guy most draft analysts, myself included, had not watched. I was aware of who Bromart was. I hadn't studied him when the Lions took him in the third round. Turns out that was a huge mistake, and Bromart has bounced around a bit. He is now with the Las Vegas Raiders, but he is injured and was waived with injury, and nobody claimed him. So he has reverted to their injured reserve, which means he's out for the 2026 season already. Now they can give him an injury settlement and let him free, but, honestly, take your salary, dude. It's gonna be more than your settlement. You're not gonna get another one. It sucks because we we interviewed brother Martin, Chris, and I did right after we drafted him. We liked him as a person. We wanted it to work as a player, but, damn, it didn't. It really didn't. The Raiders replaced him, by the way, on their roster by signing former line Benito Jones to be their nose tackle. Good luck, Benito. I always liked Benito. He he he did yeoman's work in Detroit. Thankless type of work. Solid player. If he's yours if he's your backup nose tackle, you're okay there. So good luck to that. Tim Patrick. Remember him? Isaac beat him out, forced him off the roster. He is now signed with the New York Jets. That went way under the radar. That actually happened, over the weekend. But sympatric on the Jets, we'll see what he can do with their cadre of quarterbacks there. If you forgive me, I need a lot of coffee today. Long night. I watched the Spurs. Wembley. Good lord. Wembley playing like Steph Curry. Yeah. I'll go I'm gonna cycle back to the Pistons and the Cavs real quick because a lot of you know this. My two sports passions are the Detroit Lions and the Cleveland Cavaliers. I have been a Cavs fan forever. I went to a Cavs game when Bill Laimbeer played for them before the Cavs traded them to Detroit. Like, they are those are my teams. No no shade whatsoever against the Pistons, but I implore Pistons fans. Root for Cleveland against New York. You don't want the Knicks to win. I honestly, I don't think the Cavs are gonna beat them, especially not in game one tonight with the short rest, and New York's been off for, like, ever. But go Cavs. Keep me in your thoughts and prayers as we lose in five or six. We'll see. Fun year for the Pistons. I watched a ton of Pistons basketball this year. Like that team, we have we have a lot of questions. We're we'd like to vote it an an episode closer to the NBA draft to the Pistons just to have some fun. I'll get I know some Pistons guys. I can get them on in here. We'll, make it a Detroit podcast instead of just DLP. We'll make it d something p. DPP. I don't know. The other one, Shane Zylstra, long time number two slash number three tight end in Detroit, is now competing for that role with the Buffalo Bills. He signed a one year veteran minimum contract. Good luck. He was a guy that got hurt in training camp in 2024 by friendly fire, and I hate those types of injuries. Hoping we don't get that kind of stuff this year. That's your daily DLP for Tuesday. Really appreciate y'all liking and subscribing. Thanks again for all the the feedback, positive. And, hey, if you got negative let let me we're here for you. This is this is a this is a responsive show as the official Lions and Reddit connection. Let's go for it. Thanks, guys. Jeff Risen signing out. Be good to one another, everybody.