Jack Campbell Locked In, Option Math Explained
Jeff Risdon went live on the Detroit Lions Podcast for a bonus hit. Chris was slated to join, but he’s on short-term injured reserve. The headline was simple. Jack Campbell announced his contract extension. It runs through the 2030 season.
The why behind Detroit declining Campbell’s fifth year option mattered. His All-Pro nod pushed that option cost to the franchise tag level for linebackers. The NFL does not separate off ball linebackers from pass rushing linebackers in that calculation. That puts Campbell in the bucket with players like Micah Parsons. That price is prohibitive for any off ball linebacker. An extension always made more sense.
Final numbers were not available. The expectation was in the $16–18 million per year range, but the structure will tell the real story. The key pieces to watch: what is guaranteed at signing and how many void years get attached.
Fan Reveal, Super Bowl Goal, and Campbell’s Leap
The news broke in a fan-forward way. Sweta Patel, a loyal Detroit Lions fan, shared the extension first with the team’s blessing. Peter Schrager amplified that she indeed had it. Detroit followed with a video featuring Campbell. He smiled and set his goal out loud: the Super Bowl.
The growth that led here was steady. Early on, Campbell could get flat-footed in coverage. He guessed on reads at times. Shedding blocks was inconsistent. The tape evolved. Last season he earned first team All-Pro. His missed tackle rate stood out. He was reliable. He was where he needed to be. Always around the ball. The extension validates the development.
The Money Mechanics and What’s Next
Detroit’s approach to contracts remains a strategic subplot for the NFL audience. The Lions prefer void years over traditional restructures. That creates cap flexibility today but limits the ability to restructure deals later. You cannot easily add more years if dead years already stack at the back end. The number of void years on Campbell will signal how aggressively Detroit wants to push money forward.
If the deal carries only one void year, it suggests confidence. Confidence in Campbell signing another extension down the road. Confidence in handling the rest of the core without robbing future space. The draft class of 2023 sits next in line. Branch and Laporta are in contract years as second-rounders and are coming off injuries, which complicates projections. Gibbs can wait a bit longer if necessary. And Penay’s next extension is not far out. It could come as early as next offseason.
For the Detroit Lions, this bonus Detroit Lions Podcast episode framed the moment. Campbell is locked up. The cap chessboard is in motion. Eyes now shift to guarantees, void years, and the next signatures.
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Speaker 3: Hey, everyone. Jeff Risen here. This is not your daily DLP. We're doing a bonus one tonight. We're going live. I know he just got the DLP open daily DLP opening music. I forgot to change that. That's my bad. Chris was going to join me tonight. We're gonna do a live show together. Unfortunately, he is, incapacitated. Nothing nefarious or anything like that, but, he's on injured reserve for a little bit. So, I decided, you know what? We've got the time blocked off. Let's talk. We got things to talk about. We got a Jack Campbell contract extension announced by the man himself. Well, kind of. Just a cool story. We all knew that the contract extensions were coming with Jack Campbell, like, never any concern about it. They declined his fifth year option because it was egregiously expensive. You know, the we I talked about this with Ben Solak earlier this week on the on the daily about how the the value for the franchise tag, which would be his fifth year option because he made an all pro that accelerates the fifth year option up to the franchise tag level for the the linebackers. There's no differentiation between off ball linebacker and pass rushing linebacker. So he'd be in there with, like, Micah Parsons and, like, those guys. And nobody's gonna pay Jack Campbell that much money. Nobody's gonna pay any off ball linebacker that much money. We don't know yet how much Jack got. We'll find that out soon. It is for four it extends through the 2030 season, so that's really cool. Got Jack Campbell locked up as expected. Sort of a tip of the iceberg type moment for the contract class, the the draft class of 2023. He's the first of the four big ones. We'll get into about, you know, who all else is going to get extensions with, you know, with Gibbs coming up, Branch, and Laporta. They're all due all due this year. Gibbs, you can wait on if you have to. But for Laporta and Branch, who are second round picks, nope. This is this is their contract year. They're they're playing for contracts. They're both coming off injuries, which makes projecting their contracts a little tougher. But I wanted to just give a quick shout out to Sueeta Sueeta Patel, friend of the show. She came to a couple of the training camp parties. I've had conversations with her. She's a fantastic Lions fan, super fan. The Lions do love her. Like, that's not fluff. They let her break the news, that that Jack Campbell was signing. Jack agreed to it too. Well, I I think that's awesome. It's little things like that that endear it helps build trust and, you know, that sort of connection relationship type thing with the organization and the fan base. I think that's really cool. It's you know, the fact that that they leaned on her, she has been loyal, faithful. It's it's it's so neat that that that she got to experience that. I I think that's awesome. Good on the lines for doing that. Good on Peter Schrager, by the way, for also for recognizing that and and putting that out there that, you know, that that she did, in fact, break the news. Jack recorded a video, and they put the lions posted it very shortly thereafter, but I I love it. I love that Jack Campbell talked about going to the Super Bowl as his goal with the contract. Had a smile on his face. He's not someone who shows a lot of emotion. He was genuinely happy. You could see it in the video that he put out, that the lions posted on their socials, which I thought it's awesome. Just so cool to see him come into his own. Because early on, he had his struggles. I don't wanna say that he was it wasn't it wasn't like he was bad. It was never anything like that. But there were areas that he had to get better at. He was a little flat footed and covered sometimes. He guessed sometimes, instead of, you know, reading the play better. Didn't always dodge blocks as well as he could have, but it's gotten better and better and better. And last year, first team all pro, fantastic missed tackle rate, just so so reliable, so steady, always where he needed to be, always around the ball. It's nice to see that validation that he earned it. Again, we don't have the numbers yet. I've seen a couple of numbers thrown out there. I don't know if they're true or not. I don't really wanna get into the things that that aren't accurate on that. It'll come out in due time. I would expect that it would be in the 16 to 18,000,000 per year range, but we'll we'll see. Thing you wanna pay attention to more with the Lions specifically, what percentage of it is guaranteed at signing and how many void years are on it? Because that is where the roster flexibility comes or doesn't come. We talked a lot early in the off season about void years as we're getting the free agency and how paralyzing they can be for the the lions chose they choose void years instead of restructures as a basic template for signing contracts. When you tack void years on when they sign the contract, it really inhibits your ability to restructure deals down the line. Because how do you restructure a deal? You add more years on. Well, you can't really add that many more years on if they're already three dead years on it. So I I would I'm actually curious to see how they do structure it and how many void years that they put on it. Because if they didn't if they they only have one void year, which is almost like, everybody is a void year now, but that signs that the contract extension, it feels like, at least one. That's telling me that the team is more confident that Jack will sign a second extension, but also that they're feeling pretty good about where they're at with their other guys too, that they don't have to rob Peter now to pay Paul later when they get those extensions with with Branch, with La Porta, with Gibbs. And, oh, by the way, Panay's next extension is not that far out. Like, that could happen not it won't happen this offseason. It could happen as early as next offseason. Like, that's but, again, the when you tack the void years on, there's only so much you can do with golf. There's only so much you can do with, Aleem. But pay attention to that when it comes up. We'll, sorry. I gotta pay attention to the comments here. Let's see. We got reports on it. Rep okay. I'll bring this one up from from Dom. Four years, 81,000,051.5 guaranteed. Alright. So that's 20,250,000 per year. That's higher end. That's very near the 21.25, I think it was, figure for the the the fifth year option. That's that's rewarding him. 51.5 guaranteed, that's that's what? 65%, 60 ish percent. Doing my rough math here. I'm not I'm not a math magician. Sorry. That's that's a little bit higher than I expected, to be be honest. It's not an overpay. I don't think that's an overpay, but I I do think that it's, that's an interesting one. Yeah. Yeah. 20.25 a year average. Wow. Good for Jack. Once again, the lion showed that if you play well, they will reward you. This is not an organization that's gonna go El Cheapo. Those days are long, long gone. Thank god. But don't miss those discussions. No. We can't pay him. We don't wanna pay them. We don't have enough cash to pay them. We don't we don't have those problems in Detroit. Thank god. They the Raiders looking at you do have those issues, cash flow problems, irregardless of the cap. That is a big cap hit, though. Wow. Four years, 81,000,000 for Jack Campbell. Very good one. K. Here's a question. I'll bring this up. And and it it he and he adds on to the question. Why don't they why don't they give ten year deals to Pena and Saint Brown? And and a lot of that is the players would absolutely wouldn't want that. The agents clearly wouldn't want that. I will point to Kirk Cousins as the he is a revolutionary in terms of how NFL players get paid, And he's done things it used to be and and and Matthew Stafford are great examples of this. Calvin Johnson is as well when they got seven year contracts. The agents got paid off the total value of the contract. So they pushed to have those extra years in that. I I remember Calvin was, what, seven one fourteen, something like that. Now they want more contracts, shorter contracts with more guaranteed signing bonuses. Because back then, a lot of that money wasn't fully guaranteed. On your rookie deal, it was, but that that that that culture has changed. The players see the light now that signing a four year deal when you're Jack's, what, '25, '26? He'll get another contract. Look. Look. It's a four year contract extension. It won't last four years. They're not expected to last four years. He'll renegotiate in 2029 before that before that final season gets in. That's just how all of these are gonna go. Will do that. Will do that. Kirby, if he's still healthy enough to play, will do that. His contract's interesting. We're gonna do a daily, with a contract expert. I've got got somebody in line to do that. It's not gonna be in the next week, but it we we're we're set up to do one to talk about how the lines can get out of Kirby's contract if he's not able to play, which we hope that isn't the case. Yeah. I like this. Chris, I'm waiting for my contract. I'm just not willing to work for it. Insert slide political comment here. Yeah. No. But I I'm I'm very happy for Jack. I think he's earned this. I am curious now that they are paying him that much. That's telling you and also the fact that Derek Barnes has paid a lot as an off ball linebacker as well. It's very easy to see why they let Alex and Zaloni go away for the money that he was asking for. You can't pay your linebackers that much. This also is a stronger indication to me anyways that the lions are going to play more two linebacker sets with Campbell and Barnes. Rodrigo and Roller will compete for that other one. Damon Clark's gotta be in there. Like, I I don't wanna forget about him, but I think he's here for special teams.
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Speaker 3: Think you're gonna see more of the more of those two linebacker looks. Now here's the thing with Campbell, though. He is capable of turning and running with the tight end or a running back out of the backfield, but that has to be his primary responsibility on a play. Otherwise, he's not the best in coverage. He's good. Anselloni was better in that. But if you're like me, think you like the idea of a safety like Thomas Harper or Brian Branch once he's back from his Achilles, handling those coverage duties against tight ends as a third safety slash fifth defensive back more than you wanted Ancelotti or, in this year's case, Derek Barnes, who can forget the Pittsburgh game, Campbell, Rodrigo. Look. This is a Rodrigo fan show. We love Rodrigo. I don't love him in coverage. Sorry, dude, but that's that's not your strength. It's not Roller's strength either. I think that this is I think this contract lends more credence to the notion that the lions will be in two linebackers more frequently. Now they're still gonna play three, and there will be times to play three. The proliferation of the two tight end sets that are coming around the league. They seem to be in vogue. That's time to play three three linebackers as long as you trust someone. And I think Campbell can handle that coverage part of that. And then you can have Rodrigo or Roeder slide in into that pseudo Mike role. It's gonna be interesting to see how that goes. I'm fascinated to see what they do with this defensive front, to be honest with you. I wish I had more answers on that. I think a lot of us do, but let's see. So who's next? It's a conversation that Solak and I had earlier this week. I recorded that on Sunday with Ben. I think that was Monday's show, The Daily Check It Out. Ben was great. Ben is a fire hose of information. Sometimes he's wrong. Sometimes he's egregiously wrong as he was on the Lions twenty twenty three draft. He knows. He gets it. He he he he tries to play it off a little bit, but he knows. I might have given him some stuff before that show. Ben and I are friends. We've been friends for a very long time. He's one of the fellow six one sixers, who gets to cover the NFL. So I'd we get along great, but he can take it. You can give it to him too. But his notion was that Gibbs would be next, and I do agree with that. I know there's a lot of you in fact, some of you will probably comment about it, that you can wait on Gibbs and give him the franchise tag and buy another year. That's that's true. That's a valid thought. I don't think that the lions have any interest in doing that because once you get that franchise tag once, that price tag that's your new salary floor, and that is gonna be higher than what he'll get because you're letting more guys get more extensions that push that value up by waiting longer. Now Ben and I talked about it, about how there's this game of chick contractual chicken between Gibbs and Bijan Robinson, who's like, they're both very worthy of being the highest paid running back in football. And one of them will be for, like, a day, and then the other one's gonna sign the next day for, like, 100,000 more, and they'll take that title over. That's how it works. That's how it worked with Amon Ra. They got him in, and he was the highest paid wide receiver in the league for, like, three weeks. And now he's not even in the top seven. Like, that's how quickly it goes. So that's that's what's gonna happen there. And I I expect that to get done this summer even though they do have the fifth year option and he can play on it, and that's not an issue. But that that's gonna get done. The the one question, and this is the question that I asked Ben, was if you can only pay one of them, would it be branch or would it be Laporta? And his answer, first off, has surprised me because I thought he would say branch. But the way he explained it, I hadn't thought of that angle before, but the replaceability factor. Is it easier to find a good tight end, a good patch sketching tight end, or a playmaking safety with positional versatility? And that's a good rational thought. As long as Branch comes back healthy, he's harder to replace than Laporta is, and that's no shade at Sam Laporta, who's a very good tight end. There's a lot of very good tight ends in the flip in the NFL right now. That bite but the flip side of that, because there's so many, it keeps Laporta's price tag relatively lower. I I think the lines are gonna wait and see both of those guys if they're healthy, when they're healthy, if they come back, But we'll see. Come on here. It's a bit more than I expected, but not too much but not too much more. Just enough to get all future MLBs overpaid LOL. Yeah. Yes. That's that's kind of where I met with it. Like, I'd expected 18 ish. 20.25 is it's a little higher than I expected. But, like, other guys are gonna come up, and they're gonna get that money. I don't know. I'm I'm I'm perfectly fine with with the deal. Again, we haven't seen the structure of it yet. It's a lot guaranteed, though. That that yeah. That's, again, pay attention to the Voyageurs when they come out and you get that. Yeah. And the the and this Jeff Jeff says it here. If you have to make a choice, you let Laporta go. Already has a bad back and easier to find a tight end. I'm gonna push back, no pun intended, on the back a little bit. Yes. He did have a back injury. My understanding, and and I've talked with doctor Liao about this, is that that's really not a big deal. As long as he as long as we see him in mandatory mini camp, which is, I believe, Father's Day weekend, I I think he'll be fine. I'm not overly concerned about that relative to a lot of other injuries that we've got. I feel better about him than I do about Dennis Rake Straw. Feel better about him than I do about Kirby Joseph. You know? Those are yeah. Levi, that. So I'm but the concept of getting a tight end who can catch 65 passes, who can be a average to above average blocker, slightly above average blocker, which is where I'd put Laporta. Those guys don't grow on trees either, but the bush is a little thicker than it is at at for safeties who can do all the things that Brian Branch does. So I agree with that. And I hadn't really thought of that angle, so thanks to Ben Solek for doing that. Sometimes you learn things from your guests. That's that's what we're here for. Question here. Do you think the lack of significant investment in those tackle season means a bit of a change on defense from from Ryan? Thank you, Ryan. Thank you. I appreciate your support, sir. So I did a huge show today. We were live at American Dunes, got this bitchin' hat. By the way, if you ever get a chance to play American Dunes in Grand Haven, go. It's awesome. I've I've played it a handful of times now, but it's a fantastic experience. You feel the love for your country. I I I was patriotic, man. I was ready to enlist. I'm old and decrepit, so I can't enlist anymore. But it it really fires up your patriotic juices, in a very nonpolitical way. I I loved it. It it's it's very well done. But we talked about this on the air today. They don't have a nose tackle other than Jay Tufele. And no offense to Jay Tufele, but he's probably better in the Roy Lopez role than he is in the DJ reader role. You want him being a guy who plays maybe 25, 20 snaps a game? And he's not that's he's not that big. Yeah. I think he's three ten, maybe. Plays probably at three zero five. He's not that gigantic guy. He's capable, but Aleem and Tyleek, Tyleek can play the nose. I think when we get eyes on Tyleek, he will not be as nose tackle looking as what you've seen. I've heard that from somebody who's worked out with him. He's trimmed down a little bit this off season based on what I've heard, again, from somebody who's worked out with him. Aleem should be back. And now you're looking at having two, three technique tackles, which is a great theory for collapsing the pocket from the interior. But you just paid Jack Campbell over $20,000,000 a year, and you're not gonna have a nose tackle in front of him to absorb blockers the way DJ Reader look. I I get that a lot of y'all hated DJ Reader. You thought he was a waste of money. I will tell you that Jack Campbell should pay him a little bit of a tip for this contract because he doesn't get that if DJ Reader isn't taking care of all those blockers in front of him, soaking guys up. Lopez Lopez also did a fantastic job of that too. That's not what the defensive tackles in front of him do now, and he's gonna have to change his game a little bit. Now, again, if there's only two linebackers on the field instead of three, that changes where he can line up, and it does mix the dynamic up. But, yeah, I think you're gonna see more attacking up front. It'll be see. And and the this is two of leaves lined up at at d at d t in a five d front sounds interesting. Hell, yeah. It does. I'm all about that. I wanna see some of that. With with the knowledge that Hutch can drop in space if he needs to. Not that you wanna do that a lot, but you can do that. Derek Moore can do that. DJ Wanam, yeah. Derek Barnes, yeah, kinda. We'll see. There's a potential there to do that where you have four four linemen and that linebacker, whether it's with Barnes or Roeder or Rodrigo even, as an attack dog that can line up and, you know, shade over a tight end on the strong side, chip them on their way out so the tight end can't get out there, mix things up. You don't know if he's coming at the quarterback. You don't know if he's you don't know who his responsibility is. I love that. Go back and watch Kelvin Shepherd when he played for the Buffalo Bills. That's what he did. Like, that was his role. I think there's a chance that he will tap into that and we'll see more of that type of thing. I hope so. Man, I hope so. But this is the year to make those sorts of changes. Now that Anseloni's gone, your safety room is starting the year without Brian Branch. Who knows what's going on with Kirby? Like, I think they did I think they did a fantastic job. And I I said this, I will say it again. I will reiterate it. Lions fans are sleeping on Christian Isian. That guy can play, y'all. He is what you wanted the Dylan Dineman to be in the draft. That's who he is. He's not that superb of an athlete, but he knows how to play football. I think they did a great job in backfilling and ensuring against the safety injuries again. Now the look. They're not Kirby. They're not Branch. That duo, they're they're so damn good. I think they've done a pretty good job of keeping the safety room competent and capable compared to what it could be with with branch out until doctor Liao's estimation is the same one that I post to him when I when he was on the daily is sometime between Halloween and Thanksgiving, which also includes the Germany trip. It wouldn't surprise me at all if he plays in Germany, then doesn't play the next week, and then plays Thanksgiving and plays the rest of the year. We'll see, but that that's the timeline I have in my head. I don't know if that's official or not. You gotta you gotta say those you gotta put those qualifiers in because the AI bots scrape these things, and it it'll come out. The risk that says he's gonna be like, that that's not what I'm saying. Be careful. Be careful in what you read. Be careful in what you hear. Understand that there might be more to it. What are the perils of the world that we live in these days? Kirby, I don't know, man. He's getting paid. Let me look at his contract here. Of course, it went away. Of course, it did. He's getting paid. Four years, 85,000,036.21. Well, we want 2,000,000 in guarantees. Twenty twenty six, he costs 5,500,000, basically. Be nice to have him back because he's so dang good. Kirby is one of those guys I remember his first mini camp and first training camp. I remember the safeties coach at the time was Brian Duker. And Duker was like, can you try to tackle somebody without diving at their feet? Nolan Biase and John Macaroon were standing next to me when he said that they will vouch for that story. And Kirby was, like, like, dumbfounded. Like, I I don't like, that that works for me. Like, why do I have to, like and he's gotten better at it. Like, he says to tell you he dives at knees. Whatever. Alright. Let's see this question. This is a good question. Seems like they are gonna count on, Aiden Key and Naina to play quite a bit. I don't know about that. I think fills that role. That's a that's sign that kinda went under the radar. Now it could very well be that he's one of those guys that just, you know, you sign and then you don't see him again. But I don't know. I have not watched, Kean. I I I saw him at Notre Dame. I I didn't really honestly pay much attention to him at Cal yet. He's on the list of things to do. We'll see. He did get a nice nice signing bonus as an undrafted free agent. We'll go with that. Yeah. Jeff chiming in. I think that the depth in our defensive backfield played admirably last year. Absolutely. The legion of whom Nick Whiteside's still around. I like that guy. There's there's potential there. Maddox played really well in a couple of the games. He's back. Harper played really well in a couple of the games. He's back. Isian's there. Y'all are gonna low Keith Abney. I'm not gonna say that he will replace Amiek immediately. He's a fifth round pick after all. His skill set and mindset are so much amiek. They brought Rock back like that. Smart signing. Fingers crossed on Ennis Raikstra. Talked with Eric Edholm from NFL media, nfl.com today. He's a Missouri grad. He talked a lot about Raikstra. If you wanna hear his thoughts on that, check out the daily from from 05:21. Eric's a good dude for being a bear sky. He's not a Homer, though. Like that he gave some shade to Ben Ben Johnson too, which was nice. Here's a question, from Don. What's your confidence level in the trajectory of Cade Mays? At worst at worst, he's better than Graham Glasgow of the last season and a half. At worst, he's 15 to 20% better. At best, he's not gonna make you forget Frank Ragnell, but he will you're not gonna worry about the middle. I don't think he's ever gonna make a Pro Bowl. So in that respect, there's a lot of really good centers in the league right now. He can be at center what Taylor Decker was at left tackle. The in good games, he's, like, the eighth best. At his worst, he's, like, fifteenth best center in the league. That's that's sort of the way Decker was, like, slightly above average starting, but but reliably there. I think that's where Mays is gonna be. I got tipped off early on that the lions were were on Mays, and I talked with a couple Carolina people. And they're like, yeah. He he didn't fit with the it was two coaches ago for them now, and, like, washed out, but but they they they didn't necessarily wanna see him leave. So I feel good about it. Again, I I hate talk about this the other day with who was I talking to? I don't remember. But we were talking it was on the air. I I I was asked a question. I was on a radio show. And I'm like and the the person came out and asked straight up, like, how bad was Graham Glasgow? Like, was he the reason that your offense wasn't as dynamic last year? I'm like, oh, no. That's that's putting way too much on him. But he wasn't he should he was not a a starting caliber center last year. The year before, he wasn't really a starting caliber right guard either. So, unfortunately, but that's that's the way it worked out. So I think they're gonna be better there. I am cautiously optimistic about, Christian Mahogany at left guard. Go back and watch the first couple of games last year before he got hurt. And I won't say that he was a good starter, but he wasn't a bad one. I talked about that with my golf game today. Like, I'm not a bad golfer, but I'm also not very good. That's sort of where Mahogany was at. Like, he was he was capable. Got a few pars today. It was nice. Also had one where I took me four shots to get out of a freaking sand trap. I sunk the last one. Saved an eight. That's sort of the way Mahogany was. Like, he wasn't bad, but he could be better with more reps and more practice. I'm fingers crossed me because I did like him coming out of the draft. And he did play well early on last year. He did, specifically in the run game. I think we need to get back to that. Take a couple more here before we call it a night. So I've been talking all day. I've been on anything from Rick Star this year would be a plus, and he really got butthurt with fans when they asked about his health. Yes. He did. He's got that kind of years. By the way, Terry and Arnold is the same way. He's sensitive to the fan criticism. You gotta get over that. They're both in year three now. I do think Terryon played better last season, but he still has to get better. The I will give a quick plug to my friends, Connor and Trevor, at the NFL Stock Exchange. They ranked the first round picks of the last three seasons. Terry Arnold was near the bottom. All 96 of them. I think Terry was in the eighties. That seems harsh, but at the same time, like, he's gotta get back. I'm hopeful that he will continue his upward trajectory, but he was playing better before he got hurt last year as well. Honestly, I'm not counting on Rick Strough for anything, but I'm I'm certainly not writing him off. It would be nice if he could could get in. Alright. This is this is a good question from from Jeff Merrill. So the salary cap and players we need to sign, they're like mortal foes. Who are the contracts that could be restructured if need be? We talked about that a little bit earlier. Because they have all the void years in, you can't restructure that much. There's just not that much juice to squeeze out of them. Otherwise, you're you're setting it up where you're gonna have to have a purge at some point because you can't afford all the balloon payments, like leasing a car. You can always go to golf. Now the thing is, this is where Panay can get another extension. Hutch can get another extension. One of the advantages of having them be shorter deals. And when you have that extension like Jack Campbell, we don't know the structure yet. His salary is gonna be ridiculously low this year. His cap number might actually go down even though his overall contract value has gone up. That's how the contracts get structured. And as long as you can be prudent and not have bad deals or deals that you can get out of, you're okay. But that's as far as, like, restructuring a lean, you're probably better off waiting until that till it's the eve of his final season and then give him another deal. That's that's the restructure that you would get. The the with with, again, with all those void years that that that's a Mike Disner trademark, and there there are a lot of positives to it. It allows you to sign more guys early on, but you can't go to that bank. You can't use that credit card because there's just not there's just not any room to do it. I did a daily early on this off season, where I talked with, Jack Duffin, who's a a Brit who does contract stuff. He's primarily a Browns guy, but he he was gracious in it. And, also, Troy Chapman, Troy OTC on Twitter. He's a Texans guy. He's a friend. He is ridiculously meticulous on his contract stuff, and and I hope to get him on the show very soon to talk about those sorts of things. But he was like, yeah. That's that's the downside of having all the void years and doing what the lions do. So it's it's gonna be tough to do that sort of stuff. Put up a couple comments on here. If DJ Reed plays like the post injury Reed last year and Arnold doesn't improve, we're in deep shit. I'm not gonna disagree with that. That is a definite potential downfall. Outside cornerback, probably my biggest fear for the I did the biggest fear show. Was that yesterday? Tuesday? Wednesday? I I barely know what day of the week it is, folks. It's tough. I know the Cavs played tonight. I'm not looking forward to watching them lose. The other night killed me. Freaking James Harden. How did the Pistons not figure out that whoever James Harden is guarding needs the ball and attack? It took the Knicks, like, till the middle of the third quarter to figure that out. JB Bickerstaff never figured that out. I am a Cavs fan, but I am sympathetic to the Pistons. I like I like I'm I'm a huge Tobias Harris fan. I like Alyssa Thompson. I love the way he plays. Wish he could score more. We're gonna do a Pistons show later this summer, probably around the NBA draft. Be fun. Get one of my guys from Real GM to come on, talk about it. Yeah. That is definitely a concern. Now the good thing again, and we talked about this a little bit earlier with a different thing. Raq Yesen's back. Avonte Maddox is back. You got Keith Abney coming in. You have Nick Whiteside. Again, Nick Whiteside can play. I hope he can be the number four cornerback. That'd be nice. Number five, cornerback. They have options that are better than the rotting corpse of Emmanuel Mosley and all of his injured body parts. Now that they they've done a very good job this look. Y'all know me. If you're watching this, you know who I am. You know what I I am ridiculously overcautious and apprehensive about injured players. I think the Lions have done a really good job of getting insurance for guys that might not be back fully healthy. I give Brad Holmes a lot of credit for that this because I don't think he's done a very good job at that in his tenure. I think that was one of the things that he processed and learned and evolved both in the draft and with their free agent class. Getting more he the the phrase say, he raised the floor for this team. The ceiling's already been sky high. He brought the floor up this off season. I like that. Might not be sexy. Insurance isn't sexy. Although, you know you know you know flow lights your boat. You know that. Shout out to flow from Progressive. Like to see what's under that apron. Just say that out loud. Scratch that. We'll edit that out of the show. Got time for a couple of more here. This is a good question from Alan Dana 4817. Will the lions run the left side more this year? I sure hope so because is the best run blocking offensive lineman in football. He's moving to the left. Yeah. Let's go there. Blake Miller. I I like I like the Blake Miller draft. We've talked a lot about Blake Miller. I think he's gonna be good. I think he's gonna be a rookie, though. I think Tate Ratledge is gonna pick up some of the slack there for the run game. But, yeah, you're gonna run to the left more. You're also gonna see, I think, more and this was a Drew Petzing thing, and this is this is from the Stefanski, which is a Kubiak, Shanahan type offense. That's what Drew Petzing's lineage is from. A lot of tight end crack blocks, a lot of your outside wide receiver cracking in, down blocking, whatever you wanna call it, to free up an edge and get Jamir Gibbs out in space against the cornerback. Left or right? Good luck, defense. I like that one a lot. I like that a lot. Let's see. The CBs will be okay if we can, we can get more pressure. But like I said, if not and I think Wannam is gonna be great on this d. I agree. DJ Wannam is another under the radar thing. He's filling the Josh Paschal role, the Marcus Davenport role. He's healthy. He's a good, solid player. Again, he might not bump the ceiling up, but he raises the floor. I don't think this defense is gonna be any worse than twentieth, twenty second. So there's there's 32 teams. So, like, the the bottom 11 or, like, the bottom third, think at worst, the lions are at the top of the bottom third even with some injuries. Now, obviously, you can't have the catastrophic injuries that they've had the last couple years. I that happens, like, throw everything out the window. Throw me in the lake. But there's there's good talent on this team and better functional depth, proven depth already. I like that. I had to say something like Chris. Yeah. I'm impersonating him. I wish Chris could have been here tonight. He was fired up to to join us. We're we're we're talking about what we're gonna talk about in the live show before the whole Jack Campbell thing came out, and then he's, on injured reserve for a bit. Chris, I know you're watching. I hope you're feeling okay, man, because the picture you sent me did not look pretty. Get that checked out, man. We need you. I'm more worried about Mahogany than Blake Miller. Yeah. Probably. I'm more worried about left guard in general. I've seen a lot of Drew Scruggs. He's a good backup. Don't really want him starting or competing to start, like but made the best man win in the competition. I still wonder what's gonna happen with Myles Frasier. I don't know. I'd love to tell you that I know that he's gonna play guard or tackle or where he's gonna compete. If he's gonna compete to start at left tack, left guard, if he's gonna be competing with Larry Borom and Giovanni Manu for that number three slash number four tackle, I don't know. I will tell you that the Lions folks that I've talked to, they're not really sure. It's been a while since I've talked it's been since before the draft that I've I've had those conversations, but he's kind of a mystery man right now. I like his upside. We'll see. I don't know. Good question here from from mister Merrill. How many players that we cut this year will make it on the other rosters? That's a good question. We signed Cedric Wilson as a wide receiver today yesterday. I don't think he's making the roster. I think he is a signing that look. He's he is your undrafted rookie free agent, wide receiver du jour, even though he's got five years in the league. If he can play special teams, he'll have a chance. But he's one of those guys, he's so ridiculously athletic that if he gets cut, he will get another shot somewhere else. That's just who he is. I could if Nick Whiteside gets cut, I could see him make another team. Chris Smith, maybe. We've in in all the talk we've had about the defense line, we haven't brought up Chris Smith yet. He the Lions do he has a patron saint somewhere in that in that lock in that coaching staff or front office that keeps him coming back because we've never seen a whole lot from Chris Smith, but, man, they seem to keep bringing him back all the time. They seem to like what something there even though he's a little bit undersized. Yeah. We'll see. I actually one of the questions that I have, and we're gonna do a daily on this in the future, probably once right before training camp, how many of the day three picks this year don't make the team? Simply because there's not room for on them for the roster. Room for them on the roster. Roller will make it. I can see a world where none of the other day three picks make the active roster. They're all in the practice squad. Some of that depends on guys like Makai Wingo, Dan Jackson, Cedric Wilson at wide receiver with with Mays. We'll see. But that that that's gonna be one of them. This is a very savvy and correct comment. RO line got worse when Mahogany got hurt against the Vikings. Yes. It did. And that really hurt Graham Glasgow, who had actually strung together a couple of decent games before then. Graham Glasgow was a very conscientious man who took his leadership role very seriously, and he's like, oh, crap. I gotta help my guy over here to the left, but I also have a rookie next to me to the right. That'll wait on him. Wish it would've ended better for him. Really do. I keep white side over Rick Straw. If Rick Straw is healthy and shows that he can stay healthy, which knock on whatever freaking wood you got. I'm not banking on that, by the way, but it's conceivable. The Lions have invested a lot of time and resources into him being whatever they want. Yeah. Alright. Thanks for joining me tonight. I appreciate it. I'm tired. I was at the golf course at seven this morning. I know it was hard work golfing, but then I did the the huge show. It's been a long day. I need to eat. Thank you all for joining me tonight talking about Jack Campbell. Again, Jack Campbell, this is a Jack Campbell fanboy show. We're gonna see a lot of more extensions. I'm glad that he got done. Is it a bit of an overpay? Maybe. Not much, though. Not enough that it would bother me as a fan. Captain Jack is back. We'll call it a show. Thank you for liking and subscribing. By the way, this functions as tomorrow's daily DLP. We'll have a new show for you on Saturday and probably Sunday as well. Until then, Jeff Harrison signing out. Be good to one another, everybody. Thank you.