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Speaker 6: Hey, everyone. Jefferson here with your daily DLP. This So it's an interesting one. It is Tuesday, June 2, and that's a very significant day for me. And that was originally going to be the focus of this show, getting a little bit away from football, but football brings us back. And it's even though the lions didn't do anything on Monday, There's a team that did something very similar to the lions, and it also happens to tie in with what I was originally gonna be talking about. So we're gonna make it it's a Cleveland desk show today. For those of you, from my hometown, I'm from the Cleveland area, welcome. Covered the Browns for several years, and the Browns made a lot of news on Monday by trading Miles Garrett to the Los Angeles Rams. The deal, and I'll bring it up here. This is from Adam Schefter. These terms were validated, by the way, by independent sources. Browns send Myles Garrett to the Los Angeles Rams of four. A twenty twenty seven first round pick, a twenty twenty eight second round pick, and a twenty twenty nine third round pick. It's three drafts from now. And Jared Vers. Jared Vers is a very good football player. Pass rusher, has been a good one. I want to bring up his stats here. Verse had seven and a half sacks last year. He had four and a half as a rookie. He was the AP defensive rookie of the year in 2024 as a first round pick. Pretty good player. Good young player. Although he is actually 25 years old already. So So he's not as young as he might be. Turns 26 in November. But if this deal reminds you some of when the lions parted ways with Matthew Stafford, You are not alone. That was the first thing that came into my head was there's a lot of parallels here. And there are indeed a lot of parallels because Garrett, much like Stafford for a long time, played on a team that just couldn't win and was very handsomely compensated for it and got a lot of prestige around the league. But with the new regime coming in, he didn't see the path. And I've talked talked with several Browns. Remember, I I I covered the Browns for a long time. Still have a lot of friends that work in and around that building. And, basically, well, let's let's rewind. Let's rewind. Okay. They had no intention of trading Miles Garrett as recently as the combine weren't even listening to calls. They well, I I take that back. And I got this from from multiple sources in Cleveland. They were listening. They were not engaging in talks. Basically, they're hearing what teams were offering. I do not I'll be straight up. I do not know if the Detroit Lions made an offer. I'm gonna guess they didn't, but I don't know that. I will go back to the trade deadline last year when the Browns had absolutely zero intention of trading Myles Garrett whatsoever. None. Like, was not going to happen. But I fished around a little bit, post a hypothetical to a good lion's source. And I said, if the lions were gonna make an offer, what do you think they'd offer that would be realistic? Actually, I put this in the Slack on Monday afternoon, and I'll read it from that. The speculation at that time was two first, two seconds, and a good young starter. Two first, Jameson Williams, because Brown desperately needed wide receivers at that point. They might still. They might not. They drafted two very highly. We'll see. Just a speculative trade. Don't I don't know if the Lions ever called and made that offer, but the Browns weren't entertaining it at that time anyway, so it's moot. Think back to 2020, 2021. Lions bring in Dan Campbell, Brad Holmes. Stafford sees what's gonna happen. Doesn't wanna be part of it. He's had enough. Nothing against the team. Nothing against the new guys coming in. He was just done. Twelve years. Played in three playoff games. They were further away in 2020, going into the 2021 season, than they had been since he was a rookie with the winless team before him. It's like, I'm tired of that. I don't want any more of that. He wanted out. He didn't make it public. He didn't cry, whine, didn't make public demands, didn't cause ripples. Just very matter of fact, it was like, let's it's time to be done. I am told from multiple people in the Browns area, realm, media, and other places. Gotta be careful. Get burned, people.

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Speaker 6: Miles was still on board until a couple of things have happened recently, specifically. He's not thrilled with how Todd Mochen is the head coach and the approach that that's taking. And he's also not thrilled that the Browns were are still, sorry to say this with a straight face, they are seriously considering going back to Deshaun Watson as their quarterback. They think that gives them their best path. Miles is tired of all that nonsense. Now he has a no trade clause in his contract. He asked for that once upon a time, believe it or not. It was more so he could control his own destiny, and he has weighed in upon it. And, I was told that the owners meetings the recent owners meetings, which happened after the draft, were where the Browns were like, okay. Miles Miles is ready to leave. Like, we need to do right by Miles here. I don't know if they said that, but they started listening. And I do not know, again, don't know if the lions were involved in any discussions on this. I'm gonna guess not again. Would you give up Aidan Hutchinson a first, or would you go up Jameson Williams on a first? Like, the post draft, they don't need that. I'm told that one of the reasons why they chose the Rams offer over other offers, which includes two NFC East teams, made very serious considerable offers, was that they want Jared Verse. Verse was the key to getting it done. Feels like, though, with all that that Cleveland is getting for giving up on an era. Garrett's been there since 2017, nine seasons, three playoff games. They did win one. They won a game in Pittsburgh with a coach Kevin Stefanski quarantined in his own basement for COVID in a game that their defense dominated. Still one of the more bizarre games I've ever covered. The Steelers were down 21 to nothing after three offensive plays. Just wow. Yeah. But Garrett was done, and there's there are a lot of parallels to it. Now what did they get back? Well, let's go over what the lions got back for Stafford. Obviously, Jared Goff, another former number one overall pick. Revers wasn't number one, but he was the first defensive player taking them. Defensive rookie of the year. He's a good player, y'all. He would look great across from Aidan Hutchinson. Didn't work out that way. It's fine. Fingers crossed that the Derek Moore, DJ Wong combination will work. We'll see. Trying to be optimistic about that. Jared versus real good young player. Cost controlled, by the way. We don't know what those picks will be, but it's a first next year, a second in '28, and a third in '29. The lions gave up two firsts. Sorry. The Rams gave up two firsts. The lions got two firsts. The first first was number 32 overall, became Lewis Seane. It got traded. Lewis Seane did not work out for Minnesota. Unfortunately, he had a injury issue. Lions obviously parlayed that into other things. The third round pick that the lions got back in that deal became. For being the one hundred and first overall pick, he's done okay for himself. I'm not a fan. I'm glad he's no longer in Detroit, but he's still in the league, has shown that he can capably be an NFL player at times when he's not hurt or injured. Not sure he knows where that line is, but maybe he'll learn. I don't know. And the other one was the number six overall pick, subsequent. That also got traded, became Paris Johnson, who's a starting tackle for the Cardinals. He's he's a he's okay. He's fine as a starter. He's not an asset necessarily that, like, anybody's like. He's not this irreplaceable guy, but he's he's a functional starter. He is he is not quite as good as what Taylor Decker was at his best in Detroit. But okay. Browns are acknowledging that the window with Miles Garrett was closed. But more to the point, they were acquiescing to the players himself, Stafford in Detroit, Garrett in Cleveland, knowing that it was over and that it was time. And that the losing, the bad culture, the bad ownership, the coaching carousel of crap, they just want it off. Get something for me while you still can, and that's that's the crux of that deal. I don't think the lions would have made that deal. I'm not sure I would either. I say that. Like, y'all have watched this show or followed myself at all. I'm a massive Miles Garrett fan. I think he's the best football player on the planet. I really do, regardless of position. It's an all in move for the Rams.

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Speaker 6: Makes them the team to beat. I think they were anyways. Honestly, they they are the only roster in the NFC that's better than the Lions that I would put ahead of the Lions in a power pole. Seattle's right there. Big Philly's probably right there. You could you could make an argument, though, that they're they're this definitely puts the Rams up because they didn't give up anything in 2026 to get them. Now it makes their selection at number 13 overall of Tye Simpson even more curious now. Now there's two ways you can go with this. First off, they really believe in Ty Simpson as the Matthew Stafford successor. I don't share that view. Most draft analysts don't share that view either, but we might be wrong on that. That will be that's that's less neat RamGM less needs problem, into two to five years from now. Like, if it works, they win the title this year. I don't think people are gonna care all that much, honestly. I don't know. I could be wrong on that, but wouldn't you have liked to have had a player who could have helped you get over the top this year? Now the other part, though, Stafford is old. He's had back problems dating back to his times in Detroit. Remember, he literally broke his back. Not that way, but he's not getting younger. There was a lot of talk that he might retire. Turned out to be unfounded, but that talk gets out there that doesn't get out there without his asset acknowledgment. Going all in one last show. Miles Garrett's a great way to do it. Damn if it doesn't work. Oh, you still got a Miles Garrett, great defense. They bolster their defense quite a bit this off season. This this is a team that I have to as somebody who roots for a team in the Detroit Lions who's never won a title in my lifetime, I would have, I I appreciate their aggressiveness in trying to go all in and get it. But it's not who the lions are. By the way, I don't really want them to be that way. I've had a lot of time to think about this, and this sort of segues into the next segment where we're gonna talk about, my heart, literally. One of the things that I've realized over time, I really want a title. And I I will go back to this being June 2. And on 06/02/2015, this day, eleven years ago, I was in the Cleveland Clinic having open heart surgery. I had a defective aortic valve replaced. Same surgery John Fox had, actually, former line's assistant. And it happened to come while the Cavs, my team, my basketball team, was in the finals, and they had never won a title yet. And one of the things that happened while I was there, I was there for six days, hell of a lot of pain, but we're gonna get to that. But one of the things that I realized in that time, remember, LeBron had gone away and come back. Kyrie Irving was there, Kevin Love was there. They were a really competitive team set to be on a really long run, but they hadn't won one. And I came to the epiphany while I was there, thinking about the Lions as well. Remember, this is the end of the Caldwell time, deal going into that. I like having a team that can win a title every year. They're always gonna be relevant. They're always gonna be competitive. They're always gonna be interesting. They're gonna win more than they lose year after year. I like that. Now that changed a year later when Cleveland, this is for you. Hell, yeah, man. I can't wait for that victory parade on Woodward. Because I went to the one in Cleveland with 1,200,000 people of my fellow Clevelanders, and And that was unreal. It was a special time. Actually, took my son with me. He's he was younger at the time. Not he's not a Cavs fan. He's not a LeBron fan. He's Pistons fan, Rockets fan. But I wanted him to see what it was like to win. And, damn, I want that for all you people in Detroit. I want that for my fellow Lions fans. It changed my thought that you can be consistently good and get one.

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Speaker 6: This Lions team can still do that. It's not gonna be easy. The Rams just got better. Like, the the they they should be the Super Bowl favorites now. But maybe this goes back. Go back to Monday's show. We talked about how Dan Campbell wanted to reset things a little bit. How they didn't necessarily handle being the favorites and being the the golden team, so to speak, very well. Guess what? They're not that anymore. It's the Rams. Rams are showing they can handle it. Good for them. This puts the lions right back where they wanna be as the hunters. I did wanna spend a little bit of time talking about the heart surgery, because it is something And I've reached out and I've interacted with several folks who've had the same surgery. Other than I have lost some long running physical endurance, like I can't run for a long ways. I actually can't body build, lift weights, not that I'd want to at my age. But one of the things that happens when you have the surgery that I had, they slice my sternum right here, pulls the muscles apart, everything that connects them. I'm not gonna show you my scar. But, it actually it's quite good. I believe it or not, I have any scar model, because I had it done much less invasively than a lot of open heart surgeries are. They didn't crack me completely open, they just did like a small thing. But, one of the things that I came across when I was recovering, my first trip to Meijer, the sit down in the cat food section of all places. Like, there's a bench there. Thank god. Like, I was done. I didn't didn't have the stamina to do it. I looked fine. One of the things that I learned was that people tend to judge you pretty harshly when they don't know what's going on. And I learned not to be that guy. People might be struggling with something that you'd never like, if you met me now, you'd never know that I have a cal valve in my heart. You never know that I was weeks away from death. I was. And it's scary to remember that. I do want one of the reasons that I wanted to do this was because the way I discovered that I had the problem, it was a birth defect, it was a genetic problem. I had an adverse reaction to an energy drink, an energy supplement that made my heart feel like it was trying to get out of my chest. And I went to a cardiologist to get it checked out, and that saved my life. I've learned about it about ten years before I actually had to have the surgery. But one of the things that they did was they started monitoring me. When you take those energy drinks, they are terrible for your heart. Please, please, please exercise moderation and caution. If you start to feel weird, get it checked out. It might save your life. It did save mine. Now I could tell you not to drink the Red Bulls or Celsius or anything, but be very careful with them. Yeah. I still drink a pot of coffee a day by my cardiologist request, by the way. He said that my my body had become so used to it, and acclimated to it that it wasn't impacting my heart. It was, like, negatively, so I'm good. I can't take creatine. I can't, like, make my muscles bigger. It kinda sucks because I do I do actually enjoy lifting weights, and I can't do anything other than just, like, you know, light things, especially with my chest and shoulders because your heart's a muscle. I have an artificial valve in there. It's moving right now. Wanting that steak tonight. I honor this day every year by having a steak dinner. And if you have one, think of me and move a little bit. I'll appreciate that. But, yeah, muscles grow, and I can't have my heart grow. That would be very bad. I will have to have the surgery again in another eight to ten years, probably. The lifespan on these things is about twenty years. I was much younger and much healthier than most people who get it. So maybe mine will last longer. We'll see. I don't know. I'm involved in a lot of studies. It's kinda fun in a weird way. But thought that was something that I wanted to to get out there and get off my chest, so to speak. And, with it being Cleveland, back that I was in the Cleveland Clinic for so long, this this it's it's been quite a, a twenty four hours. Let me tell you. Yeah. I appreciate y'all for for staying with me on this one, for this one wasn't totally lions related. I know some of you will flame. That that's fine. Not everybody's gonna like every show. It's good. It's fine. I don't love every dream theater song. Love most, though. But, again, you should still feel good about the lions, but they are no longer my favorite to win the Super Bowl, the Rams are. But that doesn't mean they're gonna win it. I still feel good about the lions. Forgot to have my heart intact. Moo. Moo, y'all. Jeff Risen signing out. Please speak good to one another, everybody.