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Speaker 3: Hey, everyone. Jeff Rosen here with your daily DLP for Friday, June 5. For some of us, it's the last day of school, which means that I will actually be able to start traveling over to Allen Park soon, which is great. Happy about that. They did have open OTAs on Thursday. Media was there. They did very little in terms of actual football things, but there was still we learned some things, and not all of it was positive, unfortunately. We learned that rookie wide receiver Kendrick Law is gonna miss his rookie season. He tore his ACL in a non contact injury earlier this week. And the grand scheme of things, it's not really a big loss. He might not have made the team. He's competing with Dominic Lovett and Tom Kennedy for wide receiver six, wide receiver five. They keep that many, and he's clearly behind well, obviously, Amun Ra, J Mo, Tyslaw, Dortch. TK has punt return ability there that certainly is a feather in his cap. That's where where Law was gonna have to win it. So, like like, it sucks. It's disappointing that he's not gonna be able to play. But in the grand scheme of things, it's really, like it shouldn't lower your expectations for the lions one way or the other. It just shouldn't. Now the one that does hurt was that we got a little bit of more information, well, kind of, on Kirby Joseph from Dan Campbell as he spoke before practice. And I wanna read to you what Dan said, and Dan led off his press conference with this. He said well, he actually first talked about, about law. That's what he led with. He got to Kirby a little bit later. I'm scrolling through here. Okay. The question was posed, on the confidence level and expectation from Lyons safety, Kirby Joseph returning from injury. And Dan said, yeah. Really, I don't know. I honestly do not know. I know this. We've done everything we can to do we can do, and he's done everything he can do to this point. And we are trying to be as smart as we can and not push this until we absolutely have to because once we've done that, then we'll know one way or another, and it's not worth it right now. We're just built slowly building, continuing the strength in there. Continuing to strengthen in there, I think, is what I meant to say. I'm reading the transcript right about the lines here. He's getting treatment. He's done some of these different things, or at different places to try to help. So I feel good about that. I feel good about that we've done everything we can, and so is he. And so we won't know. I mean, honestly, we probably won't know until we get into the thick of training camp. Folks, that's not a positive. You can try to spin it if you want. That's not good. We sort of had a like, I don't think this surprises anybody that Kirby is still dealing with his knee issue, which he suffered, last year. Hasn't played in a long time. Went from first team all pro to major question mark. And, you know, contractual stuff aside, I actually talked about that in a recent episode. You can look that up in the archives. But why is there a much better football team with Kirby Joseph healthy on it? And it's disappointing that he could very well be the next Lewis Delmas, a guy who had a whole lot of talent as a lion's impactful safety, but his body just wasn't made to handle football. And it feels like we're approaching that with Kirby Joseph, and it sucks. I love Kirby. Love what he does at the back end. His ball skills are as good as any safety in football. The way he hits, other teams don't like it. If you're a Lions fan, you probably like that. Little intimidation factor, whether it's deserved, you know, he gets labeled dirty by Vikings fans. Okay. Whatever. Fine. The point of when he came into the league, one of the biggest questions, one of the reasons why he felt at the third round, because he didn't he wasn't a good tackler in Illinois. Like, he's learned. Is it the cleanest way, most technically sound way to tackle? No. Getting the job done, though. The one saving grace that the lions have this year compared to last year is that they have been more proactive this off season, and Dan did talk about that. He talked up Christian. He talked up Chuck Clark.

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Speaker 3: I'll I'll read about, what he talked about with Izzy in here. I mentioned this one when we got him. I like Izzy a lot. You play against him, he's a pretty headsy player. He's pretty violent. See ball hit ball. Just gonna stop right there. That's nice. That's Kirby. Could also be Branch for that matter. But we'll get to Branch in a minute too. I feel like those are things you can do in the back end, but we won't know until we get it into real time. I really like that group, Campbell continues. When he talked about going into training camp, Chuck Clark, Avonte Maddox, Christian Isian. There are a lot of guys back there that are competing. We got Thomas Harper back. Dan Jackson is coming off of injury. Lawrence Strickland is there. I added the first names on those, by the way. He didn't say those. So it's a pretty competitive group with some young players and then some head z head z veteran guys. So I feel good even knowing this is Dan's quote. Okay. It's going to take branch a minute. Right? And then Kirby, we're hopeful, and I like that room. I do. And then he was pressed on what Kirby has done for the recovery, and he said, yeah. I'm not gonna give in all of that. Well, I think it's time that we honestly prepare, and I'm just talking to myself here, that Kirby Joseph might not play. And that that hurts. Now I have applauded consistently this off season that the Lions have been they've addressed depth at safety much better than they did a year ago. Remember, Dan Jackson was gonna be the answer, and then he got hurt, and then they're just sort of scrambled around. It wasn't like, it's been worse, but it could have been better. They've done better this year. Fingers crossed that Chuck Clark has anything left. There were signs of life with him last year, but also signs that he's 32 years old. So I'd love to tell you that it will all be great. Can't say that though. Hope that Kirby can give you anything. And, that's a disappointing way to start. With Brian Branch, his timeline is gonna be realistically Halloween at the earliest. Probably the most realistic time frame, and I talked about this with doctor Liao, who I'm gonna have on hopefully next week. The most likely time for him to make his debut is Thanksgiving, or the Tampa game before Thanksgiving. Either way, that's a long time before we have what was the best starting safety tandem in football in 2024 available. And that, again, I think they've done a pretty good job of doing what they can to address it. Because you can't really go out and convince a veteran who's, like, a veteran ring whore. Like, hey, man. Come to Detroit. And if our guys are healthy, you're never gonna play. Like, that's a difficult now it's easier now. Izzy is a good find. I don't think Lions fans have watched him. He the guy can play. Is he Kirby? No. He's not. He can do some things that Branch can do in the meantime. And Maddox had his two good games last year. Hopefully, he can double that this year. See what we get from Dan Jackson. There were some positives. Sam Laporta was out at practice, did his work, which is good to see, good to hear, nice to see. Terry and Arnold was also out there working out, spotted by the media that was there. Good thing. They both left early, got treatment. Neither of them talked to the press afterwards, which for Terryon, it was probably a bit difficult for him not to say anything, but maybe he's meant to ring and, like, good. It's good. Hopefully, he's on track. DJ Reed's out there. All reports are that he's looked fine. Again, they're doing three quarter speed walk throughs with no contact. It's not really football. Yeah. But it's still better that they're there than that they're not. And, you know, with the timelines where they are look. Timeline has changed all the time. The Packers got a stunning timeline update this week from Micah Parsons, who's gonna miss first month of the season, at least. They are not liking that too much across Lake Michigan. Some 150 miles that way. Yeah. It rings in Green Bay too. Giants have had three guys tear these Achilles, I think it's Achilles actually, in OTAs already. Like, I'm not saying that to try to lessen the fact that Kirby might not like that we're we're injured, but we're not alone in this. Other teams are getting injured as well. I I do wanna bring up the guy that they signed to replace Kendrick Law. I read you. Put this in the Slack Thursday afternoon because they signed him, and I'm like, I don't know who that is. He was not he's a rookie from Delaware. He spent most of his college career at Coastal Carolina. He played four years at Coastal Carolina. And while being a full time starter there, caught 33 passes in four years. They don't throw the ball a lot at Coastal Carolina, but still went to Delaware, which is a much more pro style passing attack style offense, and he caught 60 last year. I texted a scout friend because he wasn't even on my watch list. And I looked in one of the the draft guides, nowhere to be found. So I texted the guy who works as a area scout for an NFC team, not the Lions. And he's like, they signed him? Told me he's five eleven, hundred and eighty two pounds was was their significant they they timed him at his pro day at four point six four. When you're five eleven and under one ninety, you're playing in the slot, but that's not what he does. He's an outside receiver. So I don't know what the lions see in that other than maybe special teams value. Seeing what they got in a undrafted rookie. But this is not somebody who I anticipate is threatening Tom Kennedy for that spot or Greg Dortch or Dominic Lovett, also fits into that mold, anytime soon. Good luck to him though. Kyrie Duplessis from Delaware. Other things that came out and about, Dan talked a little bit about, the Rams trade. His quote when was asked, when he was asked if about his reaction for the the the Rams getting miles scared, which is the subject of Thursday's show and Tuesday's show. And will be a little bit of tomorrow's show too. Have, old friend Jared Muller who's covered the the Browns for a long time. He's gonna talk I actually got him on to talk about Drew Petzing, but then the whole thing came up, and we'll we're gonna talk about the timing and how it pertains to the lions and so forth. I I think you'll enjoy that. I haven't actually recorded that yet, but Jared's a good dude. Might share some Cedar Point stories too because we both worked there. He's like me, a Sanduskyan. He said, yeah. I mean, good for them. Sort of very nonchalant here. Dan Campbell talking about the Miles Garrett trade. I mean, they won the Super Bowl right now. Right? Honestly, I had no reaction. I mean, he's a hell of a player. Jared versus a hell of a player. They're two totally different players, but that was if that was what they felt like they needed to do and good for them. Drew Petzing did talk a little bit more, and, I'm gonna read this. And this is this is a quote. This is from Justin Rogers. Thank you, Justin, for transcribing this. Talked about talking about Miles Gary. He said, I was in the building with him for three years, so I saw it firsthand. He's a great player, kinda like the guys we talked about in this offense. I don't know if there's a weakness in his game. He does so many things at such a high level, plays with such violence, such a great player. I like what Pessing did here. He said, and Justin wrote this, Justin wrote, Pessing closed the point by reminding reporters that the Lions don't play the Rams this season unless they catch him in the playoffs. And so Pensing's quote, I know right now he's on the schedule, so I hope we're playing him this year. That, ladies and gentlemen, is exactly the kind of guy that Drew Betzing is. That's yeah. You're gonna like him. You're gonna grow to like him if you don't like him already. Again, maybe back off on the oh my god, you can look like three times. That's not who he is. That's what he had to do to try to win with what he had in Arizona. Will we see three times? Yes. Will we see as a base? No. Will we see fun things in the red zone? Hell, yeah. That's where he's at his best, or has been at his best. I'm excited for it. I hope you all get excited for it. And, honestly, that's that's kind of the reaction that I had. It's like, okay. That's good for the if you're a Rams fan, you should be very ecstatic that it happened. If you're everybody else, you probably don't need to panic about it.

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Speaker 3: The other thing he did talk about, DJ Reed. He said, well, and this is this is Dan's quote. Well, just there again, I think for spring, I like where he is at. I think he's moving well, and that's encouraging coming off of what he did. And I don't disagree. That was not an easy injury for a corner. I mean, that's a pretty significant hamstring he came back from, but I like the way he looks running around now. So positives, bring this up. This is your first look at Keith Abney, everybody's favorite fifth round pick in a Lions uniform. He's wearing number 28. This picture, yeah, Ahmed Ossining, one of the great variable wildcard unknowns for the 2026 Detroit lions. Because I'll go back to last summer, and man, it was exciting. It was fun to watch him. Like a puppy going to his master after every single rep. Like, did I do this okay? Plugging Hutch. Plug in Davenport. I'll give Marcus Davenport some credit there. Marcus Davenport did a lot with Ahmad Hassanin last offseason. He constantly wanted feedback. That's what you like to see. I look at him there, looks pretty good physically. Looks a little honestly, he looks a little slimmer than he did a year ago. Could just be the angle. I don't know. I haven't I haven't seen him in person yet. Looking forward to getting over there for mini camp in a couple weeks. But, yeah, I would love to tell you that I know what Ahmed Hassan is gonna do this year. I hope he makes I hope he worthily makes the team and competes to be active on game days. Honestly, anything beyond that for me is gravy because I watched him practice last year. And while he's got some physical talent, he is still learning how to play football. He's still learning how to play various aspects of football beyond just bull rushing into a guy and trying to shed him and go one way or the other. It's coming along. Hopefully, he's developed more of it. Remember he was hurt for most of last season. You gotta love his attitude. Pretty easy to to like this guy and root for him, but we gotta see more. We're gonna call that a show. Again, there really wasn't and I talked to a couple of guys who were at the practice yesterday. They're like, yeah. You're you're good thing you didn't drive the I live about three hours away from Allen Park with with all the traffic and instructions going on in Michigan. Both of them were like, yeah. You you didn't need to come to this. You you wouldn't have got anything out of it other than talking to players, which there's there's benefit in that, but none left to pay my gas. That's, unfortunately, leave you with this picture. Will we ever see these two together again? So very real chance that we don't, though. And I think Thursday's comments from Dan and the reality of it kinda set in. Kinda hit me. I love it hit you that way. Figures are still crossed, though. And, again, they did a pretty good job this offseason of addressing the the depth at safety, planning for what hopefully is nothing more than what it is now. Yeah. Please talk about this in my greatest fears episode that I did a couple weeks ago. I would so much love that my my biggest fear every year is existential dread about injuries. It'd be damn nice if that didn't come true this year. Jefferson signing out. Enjoy your Friday, everyone. Be good to one